What made Red fun?

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Llandris [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You ain't seen nothin

*daps fist* was wondering who's post disappeared from another thread, because the post order and thread alignment was altered.

was giving me fits trying to figure it out.

[Beastagoog]

Originally Posted by Heebo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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lol this is pretty funny

[Jazzy]

Best thing about r99 was the community

[Gustoo]

Lol good posts

[Retticus]

What made red fun was every zone having people in it. When people had similar gear, before raid content was on farm.

It was at its peak in classic: highest pop + several guilds + least amount of zones + classic gear disparity isn't a huge jump.

It was in its "mid-fun" early kunark: population resurgence + several guilds + new continent of zones. This era introduced twinks, but they weren't running rampant. Group farming could compete with raid farmers.

It was at its least fun in velious: only 1 raiding guild and very low to no ability to contest, purely PvE progress. Gear disparity at its greatest. Gear farmers cannot compete with raid farmers (unless you just want to spend 12 hours looking for people running to raids and alone).

The end of kunark was a Baron wasteland of alt farming. Velious put the nails in the coffin and solidified the box as a non social PvE paradise. PvP is mostly dead and one sided and time investment is huge.

TLDR red/PvP is fun when there are multiple guilds able to do the same stuff, or there is large enough population to support all level ranges, IE thriving newbie zones, mid level dungeons like guk. It's not fun anymore because that statement doesn't apply any more.

[derpcake]

Originally Posted by Retticus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What made red fun was every zone having people in it. When people had similar gear, before raid content was on farm.

It was at its peak in classic: highest pop + several guilds + least amount of zones + classic gear disparity isn't a huge jump.

It was in its "mid-fun" early kunark: population resurgence + several guilds + new continent of zones. This era introduced twinks, but they weren't running rampant. Group farming could compete with raid farmers.

It was at its least fun in velious: only 1 raiding guild and very low to no ability to contest, purely PvE progress. Gear disparity at its greatest. Gear farmers cannot compete with raid farmers (unless you just want to spend 12 hours looking for people running to raids and alone).

The end of kunark was a Baron wasteland of alt farming. Velious put the nails in the coffin and solidified the box as a non social PvE paradise. PvP is mostly dead and one sided and time investment is huge.

TLDR red/PvP is fun when there are multiple guilds able to do the same stuff, or there is large enough population to support all level ranges, IE thriving newbie zones, mid level dungeons like guk. It's not fun anymore because that statement doesn't apply any more.

Mistmoore was fun for a long time, even without guild involvement.

Its too bad people keep going for the high end, the mid game is so much more fun.

[Jazzy]

Would personally donate 13 bucks to rogean if he setup a classic box from scratch

[Gustoo]

Classic better times. Slower exp better because there is nothing extra fun at the very top

[Gustoo]

Enable item loot so there is a reason to fight twinks.

[Qtip]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Enable item loot so there is a reason to fight twinks.

Item loot means we have the same 100-200 people playing. If the server ran on a classic timeline, you would see very little twinks anyway.

4 years of kunark and how ever long classic lasted for = tons of twinks and cry babies quitting.