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Old 04-25-2017, 09:26 AM
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when do you most often get desperate and try to get things going by swapping the weapon in and out? When you have gone a long time without a proc
Not true.

Everquest is about consistency, I either do it the entire time, or I don't do it at all.
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Old 04-25-2017, 01:09 PM
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Varren is right, this doesn't make any sense. Going without a proc for a long time does not mean that a proc is any more likely.
Of course not. But it makes you *feel* like you are, and so when it happens you get confirmation bias.
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Old 04-25-2017, 01:10 PM
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Not true.

Everquest is about consistency, I either do it the entire time, or I don't do it at all.
Ok, Jeff is an exception, so noted. Hey everybody - Jeff is consistent. All or nothing, that's Jeff.
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Old 04-25-2017, 01:11 PM
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Each random event is independent of what came before. Consider the coin toss.
Yes, I know. I'm talking about human perception, not math.

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However, I firmly believe that it's just confirmation bias and there is no actual effect.
See that ^ part? The part where I said it has no actual effect?
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Old 04-25-2017, 02:57 PM
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I've always had good results taking my pants off
Wish I was as lucky as you when I take my pants off it's like I cast an AOE fear
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Old 04-25-2017, 03:12 PM
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I always proc after I start complaining about lack of proc
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Old 04-25-2017, 03:35 PM
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I always proc after I start complaining about lack of proc
This right here. Inevitablly it's as I'm typing "sorry stupid hammer out of charges", or something along those lines, and it procs mid sentence.
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Old 04-25-2017, 03:48 PM
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I always proc after I start complaining about lack of proc
I find '(redacted) sold me another goddam broken hammer' usually does the trick.
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Old 04-25-2017, 03:53 PM
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Ok, Jeff is an exception, so noted. Hey everybody - Jeff is consistent. All or nothing, that's Jeff.
You described a situation that doesn't happen.
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Old 04-25-2017, 07:15 PM
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Well idk about p99 but according to EQEmu source (which p99 came from) there is no higher chance to proc the first time you swing a weapon.

Take a look at TryWeaponProc, ExecWeaponProc, GetProcChances in zone/attack.cpp there is nothing keeping track of whether or not its a weapons first swing.

link https://github.com/EQEmu/Server/blob...one/attack.cpp
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