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Old 06-01-2017, 04:33 PM
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48-50k has become the norm for it, but the amount of people selling for 70k+ trying to manipulate the market even further is astounding. P99 is the only emu server with so many people trying to demolish the economy that prices double instead of half.
70k+ for best droppable weapon of the most twinked class in the game really isn't bad at all actually. Tons of twink stuff are way more expensive and has less value (I.E: armor items with an added 25 HP to it's nearest competition).
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Old 06-02-2017, 01:28 AM
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What will the new dmg bonus at 60 be for the 30 delay TStaff? I used to have a link to the Lucy tables that broke it down by level and delay.
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Old 06-02-2017, 02:15 AM
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it really can't be due to the triple attack patch where no one knows when it's even going to be implemented, right??
Dont worry man, it will follow the price pattern of Tolan's bracer, ie first hit a 60k high (probably very soon) then go down to to 50k, eventually 45k, then 40k, eventually 35k with a chance to low ball at 30k. It takes time however. At summer 2019 price back to 30k.

Tolan's bracer were at 5-6k for long time (similar to Tstaff 28k-30k). You could even get it for 2.5-3k (similar to 24-25k Tstaff) at one point. Velious was released and Tolan's bracer hit 10k value. Then dropped to 8k. Now after like 2 years Tolan's bracer is down to 5-6k again.

Main point: regardless reasons Tstaff headed towards 30k so dont be sad if you are a monk in need of tstaff. If you need Tstaff short time buy it at 50k but make sure you sell it within half year around 50k or more if lucky.
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Old 06-02-2017, 02:22 AM
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Monks get Tripple Attack in the next big update.
Monks get Tripple Attack in the next big update.
Monks get Tripple Attack in the next big update.

This isn't news at this point. People have been talking about it a lot since velious came out on p99.

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The crazy part is the number of them on the server. Just like fungis. The price is too high compared to the sheer number of these floating around.
one aspect of the problem is people go inactive. Another is that people keep them locked away in their bank but never use them. And one more problem is people keep them on their Alt that they no longer main or play actively. @_@ But I assure you there are a fuck load of these, both of them.

It's all about perception. Sellers Perceives something to have X worth. So buyers also Perceives it to be worth X amount. Granted there are some items so insanely rare that it is actual supply/demand but the vast amount of items are just some fictional perception that they're worth a big number. Even if every other person is wearing one and has one in the bank.
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Hype for monk 3x is the only reason. They litterally will not be worth more than they were yesterday or the day before. Kunark has been out far too long for them to cost as much as they do.
For the record I sold a t-staff a couple years ago for 30k firm.
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Old 06-02-2017, 05:12 AM
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People can always get a peacebringer for 1 damage less (and no stun) if they want a 'cheap' alternative to a t-staff. However, the price for any item will be what people are willing to pay for it.
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Old 06-02-2017, 06:32 AM
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I know, hence the second part of my statement. I was just trying to 'suggest' an alternative for the people that are complaining about the current price of a t-staff.
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Old 06-02-2017, 06:58 AM
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Or you could buy an IFS for the same price which has a better ratio, isn't ugly as shit, and weighs 6 less than PB.

TStaff just represents the BiS purchasable. Dps-wise it is comparable to though slightly less than epic (quested - not sellable/REsellable) and stave of shielding. After the patch (whenever that may be), TStaff should be more dps prior to level 60 and even a greater degree of more dps at 60 with triple attack. The two hand damage bonus that close to the sweet spot will be a fairly big bump even before triple attack at 60.

All of the above doesn't factor in the unresistable proc (solid damage) which carries an unresistable stun. The proc is what makes it such an amazing item - solo or group - it adds up to a pretty nice defensive perk to whoever is doing the tanking.

The mob that drops it is common and easy but they are really rare. I like to spend a lot of time in KC - just a fun (yeah it's scrub central) place to hunt and there are always groups to be had. In 4 toons through the 50s I've seen two drop despite hundreds of warlord kills. I'd wager it's more rare than fungis. Yes there are lots of them, but there's also 10s or 100s of thousand plat pieces entering the economy daily. Seafury island alone probably pumps 20-30k in daily.

Lots of TStaffs? Sure - but lots and lots of plat out there. You can make/farm 30-50k easily in the time it would take you to get a TStaff to drop -- and then you have to win the roll ...
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Old 06-02-2017, 07:45 AM
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The mob that drops it is common and easy but they are really rare. I like to spend a lot of time in KC - just a fun (yeah it's scrub central) place to hunt and there are always groups to be had. In 4 toons through the 50s I've seen two drop despite hundreds of warlord kills. I'd wager it's more rare than fungis.
Between 5 toons 54+, I've done LCY and Hands hundreds of times more than I've done King in Seb. I've seen dozens of Fungi Tunics. I've never actually seen or heard (while in zone) of a T Staff drop.
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Old 06-02-2017, 08:05 AM
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Funny thing is I don't think that T-Staff will get the 2H buff bonus because its attack speed is to low. Triple attack is a level 60 skill? Even with triple attack I would imagine Epic wins until you get into the 2h weapons from ToV. Prince increase is a farce
Won't be long till your fingers are cut off for typing such blasphemy. Somehow deep down I think you're trolling...

But go ahead explain more how it's not worth?

Imagine this. You triple attack, each hitting for 210, each one of those proc, 120, now there is six attacks in the time it took for three, that's a best case scenario almost unrivaled.

there is also a better weapon *gasp* not in ToV that's gonna parse very high soon. Price increase is real because aside from being awesome it's tradable.
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Old 06-02-2017, 08:12 AM
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All people have to do to combat the evil fat cats is to not buy them at 70k. How come they don't do that? Because, in fact, they are worth that much. If that's what people are willing to pay, then that is exactly how much it's worth.

The truth is, it's the buyers and not the evil fat cats that make the problem. If people stop buying them, I guarantee the price will go down.
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