Highkeep / Highhold Keep Goblins

[ghost182]

Had an issue here the other day where 2 players came in and started camping warrior room while our group had been keeping it all clear for hours, albeit from the normal kill spot at stairs.

Totally understand splitting the goblins up mentality, dont agree, but understand. With that said, the longer standing group should have the right to choose which its going to have if a split is to happen, no?

[Crashking]

Originally Posted by ghost182 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Had an issue here the other day where 2 players came in and started camping warrior room while our group had been keeping it all clear for hours, albeit from the normal kill spot at stairs.

Totally understand splitting the goblins up mentality, dont agree, but understand. With that said, the longer standing group should have the right to choose which its going to have if a split is to happen, no?

You have full rights to the camp.. the other players are breaking the server rules and you should petition for GM. This is my point. You do not have to share it. The lack of respect from the other players deserves no respect in my mind and I'd be telling them to go buzz off .. even if you were doing the camp solo. This is the point. People need to learn the rules of the server and what are camps.

The example of multiple camps being held and needing to split up off stuff when another party comes to contest can best be express in a zone like guk. You have the Frenzied area, You have the Lord, the hand ... ect .. as a player you can kill all you want until someone comes to contest one of those spawns. And then as per server rules ... You have the right to choose between the things you are killing and what the other players are wanting to go after.

That is not the case here with the Goblins of Highkeep -- GM states Its one camp where on Classic/Live it used to be many. And I can see how it could be 4 camps easily saying each room is a camp. But again here on 99... GM Cylock has stated it is one camp. So defend it - report those that don't respect you / your right to hold the camp. Personally I am starting to feel more and more players don't understand the server rules or have never even bothered to read them which is not my fault. Their failure does not constitute a reason I should have to allow their bad behavior and thus I feel the GM's should assign them a bit of a vacation to think about their actions. If you don't report the bad behavior it will never get corrected and the toxic players will continue to cause issue on the server - I'd rather have a cleaner community of respectful players... thanks...

PS the best thing you can do to help defend your rights is turn logging on at the start of the game. Me personally mine is on and I have no issue sending a GM a full log, unedited though its too bad in most cases its too big to submit through the limited upload capabilities currently in place. Additional you can take screen shots / video of the bad behaviors such as spawn stealing .. which is what is happen here .. although in server rule its listed under KSing but that is slightly different animal.

[kotton05]

Originally Posted by ghost182 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Had an issue here the other day where 2 players came in and started camping warrior room while our group had been keeping it all clear for hours, albeit from the normal kill spot at stairs.

Totally understand splitting the goblins up mentality, dont agree, but understand. With that said, the longer standing group should have the right to choose which its going to have if a split is to happen, no?

At that point just move into the room and dps race till they leave.

[Triiz]

I read it the same way as OP, because HHK goblins were never just one camp in 1999-2000. It was multiple camps on Veeshan and every server I've ever heard someone talk about it.

I also read it the same way as Sorn because OP asked if it was one camp and Cylock starts with "No". OP didn't ask if it was multiple camps, at least not in that log.

Either way, the 60 mage farming HHK goblins is the bad guy here.

[Crashking]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like a boulder tossed in the ocean, we are still seeing the ripples of the displaced seafury crew.

I am sorry but you are incorrect here if you are meaning that comment towards my game play. If you mean it as to how and why others are doing their bad behavior... then yes I can agree it might be part of the cause for such.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Crashking [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am sorry but you are incorrect here if you are meaning that comment towards my game play. If you mean it as to how and why others are doing their bad behavior... then yes I can agree it might be part of the cause for such.

Not a criticism on you, I found level 60 mages farming plat off level 38 giants to be risible, to hear they are now doing the same, but to level 28 goblins in popular xp spots is just a new level of absurdity to me.

Seriously, guys. Form a crew.

[fadetree]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not a criticism on you, I found level 60 mages farming plat off level 38 giants to be risible, to hear they are now doing the same, but to level 28 goblins in popular xp spots is just a new level of absurdity to me.

Seriously, guys. Form a crew.

+1 for using risible.

This is what happened to JC. He came down, said some sensible stuff, and then we proceeded to rule-lawyer and argue for centuries. God is like /facepalm.

[branamil]

Honey what are you so upset about?

> Someone kill stole my level 30 goblin :<

Mother was right, I should have married someone else

[Gumbo]

Going back to EQ Live back in 1999 was The HK Goblins was broken down into 3 camps as easy, medium and hard. You used to have 3 different groups in each room. This was also when you had normal players who had normal equipment.

Now on P99, you have level 30 players carrying level 50+ twink gear so all 3 rooms have always been just one camp. This also cuts down the all the trains from players who think they can take the hard room by themselves and come running with all the Goblins.

Now you can give one of the room away if you are there first but why bother... I can always say from experience that I have used 3 characters there and every group I was in, held down all 3 rooms as one camp...

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Gumbo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have used 3 characters there and every group I was in, held down all 3 rooms as one camp...

I have been in groups like this too, as it's the norm in HHK. But, I have also been in groups where the warlord room (iirc?) with higher lvl goblins was being camped separately by some higher level, which was annoying because we were clearing everything else so easily that room would have been nice to have too.

As I understand it, if you can't visibly see the mob spot where you are setting camp up, technically you can't call it your camp then. Which is why, those rooms can be considered and taken as an individual camp.

It's a bit retarded in cases like this where one little wall blocks the view of the goblin merbs, but, it is what it is.

Basically there's too many other spots to XP at to let someone rile you up. Petition someone if they harass you with KSing, and/or leave and find a new place before you grow emotional over merbs. This is unhealthy.