<Tempest> Allowed to raid in the near future??

[Freakish]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You mean TMO trying to rebrand as Forsaken as circumvent a suspension? I had to yell at Sirken at actually investigate, but he got around to it and enforced the suspension on Forsaken as well.

No, I'm talking about when IB got a suspension for conceding Talendor, killing it. Reforming as Rampage and Sirken saying that it was fine for Rampage to raid during IB suspension.

[Barcelona]

Some half-hearted lawyerquesters in here for sure. Ella can we get your take on this ruling and previous cases?

[Ella`Ella]

Originally Posted by Argh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This isn't just a name change (they have also jettisoned their former leaders [Eratani/Breaken]) but yes, anyone who was in Awakened for the suspension will still be raid suspended and a new guild tag won't change that.

I assume that they will still be treated as the same entity; however, they will probably be able to avoid more dramatically escalating suspensions since their entire strategy for handling disputes will likely no longer be to just ignore whoever is asking for the concessions and roll the dice with the staff.

P99 legal precedent states that in order to be considered an entirely new guild for the purpose of resetting your suspension counter you need to turnover the majority of the leadership and also have a significant turnover or addition to your general member base.

See IB + A-Team

[Ella`Ella]

Originally Posted by Barcelona [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Some half-hearted lawyerquesters in here for sure. Ella can we get your take on this ruling and previous cases?

Should have quoted this young squire...

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You mean TMO trying to rebrand as Forsaken as circumvent a suspension? I had to yell at Sirken at actually investigate, but he got around to it and enforced the suspension on Forsaken as well.

You mean circumvent going back to Class R where you knew youd get even more shitstomped? Although that was not the intent, as we talked to Sirken to see if we could use the class system as it was intended. You know, start at R, get some ground and move on to C instead of "spearheading rotations" for 15 guilds then hogging all the content between said guilds lol.

You did good Chest, I didnt know you had it in you to fuck over the smaller guilds but, you did, along with you homeboys in Taken. Thats your crowning achievement here, but in the end you still got cucked off this server and any server BDA has ever been a guild tag on.

Pras

[Nibblewitz]

BDA hogged 1 out of every 15 Venril Sathirs. It was good times.

[Uuruk]

2018 and y'all still raiding Velious.

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Their guild name needs to start with an A so that neckbeard guilds can continue to be referred to as A/A.

How about <Always Suspended>?

Well if they do neckbeard now the Raid guilds will be T&A

[Vianna]

If they got rid of that broken leadership I wish them the best.

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

T&A isn't associated with neckbeards though. AA is a lot more relevant to neckbeards.

Daldaen right now