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07-01-2018, 04:31 PM
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I think maybe I'm overthinking it heh ...
I think what I'll do is stick it out for one more level and get ragebringer and then look into either purchasing one of the really nice velium spears or picking up the kriez piercer since its ranked pretty high on the wiki for ratio. I'm all about the utility so I'm rocking snare , tash and slow (at level 50 that is) so far! Maybe I can get my faction up someday and slap some skyshrine chain on him to beef him up a little ! | ||
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#22
07-01-2018, 04:36 PM
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I don't think you're thinking enough. I want you to understand why shadowrager is a bad weapon. Please don't get near BIS weapons until you get that concept, because I'm fearful someone might think you have nice stuff and ask you for advice. Then the class as a whole will just get dumber.
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#23
07-01-2018, 04:46 PM
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This is what I have gathered so far:
-Shadow rager is dumb because you could back stab harder with a mozzerrella stick and to compound, the damage is just too low and the extra damage bonus isnt spiffy enough to bother using it. -damage is a higher priority to rogues than other melees for their main hand because back stabs scale with the damage. -swapping weapons is a no go because resetting delays wastes time you could have just been swinging in the first place. -a high ratio off hand is all that matters for a rogue unless pushing -utility is important -make sure you train double attack at the appropriate level and not 21 levels after you get like I did | ||
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#24
07-01-2018, 04:56 PM
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I realize I'm being abusive, but you're being a decent student. Just wanna make sure you know your baseline shit. Don't take that weapon reset bit as gospel, but overall I think you're right in thinking that you're best off rocking epic most of the time. That is until you get to post-epics and jfc that's another can of worms I'm not going into right now.
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07-01-2018, 05:02 PM
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Post epics will likely not happen for my rogue in particular, just trying to not have a gimped rogue. Which it sounds like I have based on what I know now! Lol. I had a better backstab weapon (rapier of oriin) but I ended up giving it to a rogue who was new to the server who could make better use of it which is the main reason I'm using the 11/21 spear atm I should also apologize to OP for hijacking the thread but maybe some useful tips he didnt already have were shared to make TWO better rogues on p99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Cheers | |||
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07-02-2018, 06:21 AM
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my first backstab with ragebringer did about 150 more dmg than the highest backstab i have seen thus far
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07-02-2018, 08:19 AM
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07-02-2018, 07:21 PM
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Enjchanter try thinking about it this way: there is really only one variable here, damage. Ratio will generally be proportional to the difficulty of obtaining an item, so you can pick high damage/high delay or low damage/low delay, but not high damage/low delay. Since backstab is more important than the damage bonus, the best choice is the high damage/high delay weapon. This makes all of the fast, low damage TOV weapons pretty worthless, with one little wrinkle: if the target has very high AC most of your backstabs will be for the minimum anyway. This will not happen while leveling, though.
I remember a conversation with Koraf when he was making his Rampage Velious wishlist. He was a little annoyed after he realized that the primary accounted for 80% of all rogue damage. Since the secondary does so little damage, Ragebringer's +ATK is more important than the improved ratio of other Velious weapons. So once you get either a Vulak or Tunare dagger you're basically done. | ||
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