Joeseph Stack's Suicide Letter

[Jeebus]

I read the whole thing. word for word. He has really good points and he's correct for most of it. The sad thing about the whole letter is he's correct in saying that no one would have read his message had he not ran a plane into a building or some other fanatical act.

He sounds like he got *assraped* one too many times.

[Zithax]

Originally Posted by Jeebus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I read the whole thing. word for word. He has really good points and he's correct for most of it. The sad thing about the whole letter is he's correct in saying that no one would have read his message had he not ran a plane into a building or some other fanatical act.

nev0rmind

[Jeebus]

Well while those maybe fanatical, I was thinking more like some sort of bomb etc

[Zithax]

Originally Posted by Jeebus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well while those maybe fanatical, I was thinking more like some sort of bomb etc

Sorry I reread your post; I completely misread it the first time. I was agreeing with you.

[Packet]

I completely agree with nearly everything he said in his letter. One of my favorite quotes is, "He who ignores history is doomed to repeat it". Now I may be misquoting the exact phrase but the application is still the same.

I am also very pessimistic sometimes toward the US government and the
American people for the same reasons. Although I prefer to live in a corrupt system rather than die trying to change it, I can understand his perspective for sure.

[Obama]

Wow that is amazing, It is unbelievable how corrupt the powerful are, and how utterly stupid and docile the public is. It's hard to deny that the author is right about justice in this country. There is no justice when the law is INCOMPREHENSIBLE, that in itself contradicts the very definition of justice. I guess all other avenues were exhausted, and the only way to make his mark was through terrorism. Maybe now the government will clamp down even harder on basic freedoms in this country, and maybe then people will get pissed off and revolt. But they almost certainly will not.

Moral of this story: take all that you can, be as corrupt as you can, because in the end, the little guy who tries to make an honest living gets fuuuucked.

[Bannedfornoreason]

Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of Liberty. – Thomas Jefferson

A government which robs Peter to pay Paul, can always count on the support of Paul. – George Bernard Shaw

America needs fewer laws, not more prisons. – James Bovard

There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him. – Robert Heinlein

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. – Goethe

Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under. – H.L. Mencken

The power to tax is the power to destroy. – John Marshall

A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves. – Edward R. Murrow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJQ_lE6UL1o

[Packet]

Originally Posted by Obama [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wow that is amazing, It is unbelievable how corrupt the powerful are, and how utterly stupid and docile the public is. It's hard to deny that the author is right about justice in this country. There is no justice when the law is INCOMPREHENSIBLE, that in itself contradicts the very definition of justice. I guess all other avenues were exhausted, and the only way to make his mark was through terrorism. Maybe now the government will clamp down even harder on basic freedoms in this country, and maybe then people will get pissed off and revolt. But they almost certainly will not.

Moral of this story: take all that you can, be as corrupt as you can, because in the end, the little guy who tries to make an honest living gets fuuuucked.

The truth is, the government is organized and the public is separate. As long as it's kept that way, change will never come. We can illustrate critical thinking and come to agreement that our government is more or less a criminal organization but as long as we are separate, we have no power. And let's face it, who wants to risk losing everything for what is likely a lost cause? The US has hundreds of thousands of deploy-able drones that can do their dirty work for them in the event of a 'social uprising'. Even though it is our right and duty to overthrow a corrupt government, the unfortunate truth is that replacing a corrupt government wouldn't fix our issues. A good example is when the Tzar was overthrown in Russia by common folk like you an I. Farmers attempting to run a country is a bad thing. (Not saying we're farmers or anything.) I'm not saying that was your point, just bringing this idea into the conversation. We just need to get those old crones out of congress and get some younger open-minded people in there with a short term.

[Erasong]

This man has a message that needed to be heard in my honest opinion, but a true martyr would have just killed himself to get it out, not tried to end the lives of other drones working a 9 to 5 going thru the same struggles as he. Becuase you work for the government, doesnt mean you are a criminal or reap the rewards of the upper echelons misdeeds. The only people he would have killed, even crashing into an IRS building, is other victims. Well, mostly. He MAY have gotten to 1 or 2 douches.
I read what was said about blood needing to be shed for change to occur historically speaking, but does it really have to be blood of innocent people? I dont think that has always been the case.
Also, Martin Luther King Jr, and Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi wouldnt be half as great men as they are if blood were truely a pre requisite of change.

[Otto]

Originally Posted by Erasong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, Martin Luther King Jr, and Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi wouldnt be half as great men are they are if blood were truely a pre requisite of change.

Truth.

Problem is, spilling blood will make those changes come more rapidly if history shows us anything.