New ToV rules

[zodium]

Say this or that about rotations if you will, but I draw the line at claiming the Sky rotation has been working very well for a long time. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Solist]

You think it takes effort? lol wot mate? 60% of AM log in for batphones only. They're by far the most casual players here.

5 of them like the competition. The rest are ultrabutthurt as now they cant be casual, they have to pay attention for 3 hours to kill everything once every 2 months. Not 20mins at a time 40x a week.

[Tura]

Originally Posted by aaezil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The new rules are actually more classic!

Man I miss Tarrew Marr. #glorydays

[Roboturner]

If we are going to rotate then it might as well be instances. Many of us stay for the competition, not the loot piñatas.

If the intent was to reduce headcount/server cost over the recent increase then this will work. A better option would have been to put out a request for monies as many would have donated.

If the intent was to minimize or reduce the effectiveness of a few guilds that have put in their time, effort, and recruited the best, then this will work.

If the intent was to allow more players to experience the end-game for a cycle before they rotate to a different game, then this will work. Not many are going to wait around for months before their next loot piñata that is a freebie.

If the intent was to punish certain guilds over political infighting, then this will work. Despite that infighting being a result of server rules.

If the intent is to reward the 5 or so folks in each mid-tier guild that give a crap with high-end loot, then this will work. A better option would have been for those folks to apply to the group(s) of like minded individuals that try hard to a try hard guild.

If the intent was to eliminate competition and the desire to compete/play for many, this will work.

I’m not a smart man, but it really feels like we’re shooting ourselves in the foot for a short term gain.

[White_knight]

I for one think this is great. -50% petitions probably off the bat. I am 32 years old, I dont have 80 hrs per week to play EQ anymore. I am sure 95% of this community is in the same boat. We shouldn't be hahamstrung by the 5% that can play 18 hrs a day and tag mobs for their guild.

Now I know once every 2 months I can clear schedule, take a day off work and go hammer and tongs on some dragons!

Sure it will put back pressure on non-tov targets but hey that is where the new competition will be.

[Ezrick]

Originally Posted by FatBalloon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is an absolute abomination to the true spirit of EQ. I started playing a 20 year old game to experience, once again, a hardcore, dangerous single persistant world with rewarding gear and character progression. I have been weary trying to find this anywhere else and now what happens 2 months after I start playing a serious character on the server to experience the end game raid scene? Apparently, the ridiculous, whiny, instant gratification, lootboxing, pay to win, pay for cosmetics, can't compete, sissies that every other developer caters to have now invaded the only hardcore bastion left in gaming and convinced the moderators of the game to completely abandon the original principles of a single persistant world and turned the best raid zone ever created into essentially an instance where you can simply order your very own Vulak loot. Wipe 6 times in a row because you suck? I'm sorry, you do not deserve to have the warm graceful touch of Do'Vassir's Guantlets of Might upon your fingers. There are so many things wrong with this rotation it's literally insane. It is nothing but a total travesty and completely goes against everything EQ was meant to be.

What's next? You don't have to do CR's anymore?

Wow! You really drank the cool-aid didn't you.

Raiding on P99 has absolutely nothing in common with live. Anyone who tells you this was the case was a ten-year-old with a level 18 l33t N3k0m@nz3r at the time. It is absolutely not true that guilds crawled all over each other in cut-throat competition to kill a mob.

If you zoned in to clear ToV there was a near 100% chance that your guild was the only one in the zone (maybe another guild was in HoT, no one did WToV). There simply weren't enough high level players at the time and the guilds that could do the content were very exclusive and level 60 only. They actually cooperated with each other. There are 200 times as many level 60 players on P99 as there were on a live server during the Velious era. Heck lower level players used to bitch constantly at Sony because "20 percent of the content is for 1% of the players." And it was true. On P99 70% of the players are trying to do that content.

It is absolutely true that WoW literally buried the original EQ in subscribers because literally everyone could raid. Those of us that did make the cut in EQ called it "EQ Lite" for many of the same reasons you list.

This idea that raiding was ultra competitive on Everquest live during it's original release is complete fiction. What P99 has become may appeal to some, but it certainly isn't the game being played in any way like it was ever intended.

[White_knight]

Originally Posted by Ezrick [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wow! You really drank the cool-aid didn't you.

Raiding on P99 has absolutely nothing in common with live. Anyone who tells you this was the case was a ten-year-old with a level 18 l33t N3k0m@nz3r at the time. It is absolutely not true that guilds crawled all over each other in cut-throat competition to kill a mob.

If you zoned in to clear ToV there was a near 100% chance that your guild was the only one in the zone (maybe another guild was in HoT, no one did WToV). There simply weren't enough high level players at the time and the guilds that could do the content were very exclusive and level 60 only. They actually cooperated with each other. There are 200 times as many level 60 players on P99 as there were on a live server during the Velious era. Heck lower level players used to bitch constantly at Sony because "20 percent of the content is for 1% of the players." And it was true. On P99 70% of the players are trying to do that content.

It is absolutely true that WoW literally buried the original EQ in subscribers because literally everyone could raid. Those of us that did make the cut in EQ called it "EQ Lite" for many of the same reasons you list.

This idea that raiding was ultra competitive on Everquest live during it's original release is complete fiction. What P99 has become may appeal to some, but it certainly isn't the game being played in any way like it was ever intended.

Can confirm on Xev I think there were 3 competitive raid guilds that did current era content. The rest were doing planes raids in luclin era. Of those 3 guilds 1 was considered uber as having your epic was a pre requirement to joining - so the rumour was. The other two just had lots of 60s.

People didnt know all the tricks known today either, nor had 6 level 60s one preparked outside each raid zone.
I remember my guild doing ToV entrance mobs for a chance at loot as their exploration in to ToV...I was 52 at the time!

Every 2nd toon didnt have their epic so rogue and monk dps was not pure adjusted as it is on the raid scene here.

[commongood]

Yeah, p99 raiding has been min/max'd to the extreme. In a way it's very impressive to witness the military precision of guilds competing with FTEs, secondarys trainups, goalkeeping etc.

But in another way it's completely insane and very much against the spirit of the original game design (just my opinion obviously).

[Prostatus]

Bank of Aftermath gonna be selling green scales for 2.5 million plat soon

take note non epic warriors

[GnomeCaptain]

One of the worst changes I can imagine. I'm approaching 60 and considering guilds, now I'd rather not and feel sort of robbed.

If I wanted to clock-in for raids like a shift-worker I'd play the festering pile of instanced excrement known as WoW.