A Shady Goblin (Ring Roll) in Warsilk Woods

[mcoy]

We're down to just 1 AFK person remaining that hasn't joined the ranks of the roll crowd...

-Mcoy

[enjchanter]

Originally Posted by spanky_kc [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Due to the nature of the quest, everyone seems to be an agreement that a roll should be instituted. Just like Scout/Ring 8 We will roll when the mob spawns and you will have 30 secs (to avoid multiple ppl switching toons) to roll 1000. Highest roll wins the right to turn in for the next progression of the Ring Quest(Selling or switching of toons is strictly prohibited and will result in a petition).

If there's anything that doesn't make sense with the proposed agreement feel free to comment.


-Floppin / signed.

ppl sell their ring 8's though

[Castigate]

Originally Posted by enjchanter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ppl sell their ring 8's though

Wanted to point out that this will get you suspended, if someone other than the person who won the roll ends up with ring 8 you should be petitioning them, and you should always watch the entire thing play out with fraps running.

I'm pretty sure I got mine due to announcing that I was frapsing it.

Shady probably isn't being enforced yet though so it's really not the same situation

[Xilriz]

I got a crazy idea how about we keep it classic and first come first serve

[diamondfist]

Guess you guys never did scout much before it was a roll, or when they were trying to convert it over which took several months.


when a mob has no variance and the spawn time can be figured out from the last turn in, people will literally show up 30 seconds before the mob spawns to click fest... good luck getting them to agree to it. Cant really hold them to "but everyone here agreed" if the agreement was made before they logged in, and they weren't part of the conversation.

kinda like forum agreements ... there are many players who rarely if at all come to these forums.

reminds me of a time @ scout like 20 people wanted to roll, and I said right in say. I had no issue doing that but if player, x,y, or z shows up before this pops the agreement goes out the window because they aren't going to agree...

and sure enough one of them showed up =p



why cant staff get creative here. There are several things on this server that aren't classic due to some reasoning behind it.

why not just flip flop the timers for shady and angry. that way the same amount of rings will be going onto the server as it did on live. While dealing with most of the issues here.

then for icing on the cake, all they need to do on the shady is add a invisible npc with no name that despawns 10? 30 seconds? Before the shady goblin spawns and doesn't go back for say 10 minutes.

this will 100% make is so people cant autofire / afk + autofire / just show up for welfare pixels and make doing the quest earned as it should be.

[Cylock]

Originally Posted by diamondfist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Guess you guys never did scout much before it was a roll, or when they were trying to convert it over which took several months.


when a mob has no variance and the spawn time can be figured out from the last turn in, people will literally show up 30 seconds before the mob spawns to click fest... good luck getting them to agree to it. Cant really hold them to "but everyone here agreed" if the agreement was made before they logged in, and they weren't part of the conversation.

kinda like forum agreements ... there are many players who rarely if at all come to these forums.

reminds me of a time @ scout like 20 people wanted to roll, and I said right in say. I had no issue doing that but if player, x,y, or z shows up before this pops the agreement goes out the window because they aren't going to agree...

and sure enough one of them showed up =p



why cant staff get creative here. There are several things on this server that aren't classic due to some reasoning behind it.

why not just flip flop the timers for shady and angry. that way the same amount of rings will be going onto the server as it did on live. While dealing with most of the issues here.

then for icing on the cake, all they need to do on the shady is add a invisible npc with no name that despawns 10? 30 seconds? Before the shady goblin spawns and doesn't go back for say 10 minutes.

this will 100% make is so people cant autofire / afk + autofire / just show up for welfare pixels and make doing the quest earned as it should be.

You’re correct ...

about a year ago I asked Nilbog to randomize the spawn(s) to eliminate this issue. Yes it isn’t classic, but neither is having tons of people with previous knowledge about the quest.

[Sadiki]

Originally Posted by Cylock [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

about a year ago I asked Nilbog to randomize the spawn(s)

Is this referring to shady/angry?

I just feel like the current state of the quest is.. not fun. If it's gonna be a grind, I'd rather have a log-in-for-30-seconds grind than a sock-6-hours-a-day-potentially-forever grind. Both are dumb, but we're not going to get non-classic changes to speed up the amount of quests completed over time and improve the experience.

I'm hoping tomorrow's roll-in-advance option works out, because all people could decide on after debating was a 5 second roll window during a 6 hour window, which is just so alienating to most people. Makes me feel like we don't want people to experience and have fun with EQ, when we have the option to. All of these people all already put in the work to get Ally in the first place. EQ isn't hard.

Still, everyone would love a quick official chime-in on what constitutes a player agreement so we don't agree to roll in advance and have it degrade into a clickfest because of a random jerk.

[jag2kk]

Originally Posted by Sadiki [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is this referring to shady/angry?

I just feel like the current state of the quest is.. not fun. If it's gonna be a grind, I'd rather have a log-in-for-30-seconds grind than a sock-6-hours-a-day-potentially-forever grind. Both are dumb, but we're not going to get non-classic changes to speed up the amount of quests completed over time and improve the experience.

I'm hoping tomorrow's roll-in-advance option works out, because all people could decide on after debating was a 5 second roll window during a 6 hour window, which is just so alienating to most people. Makes me feel like we don't want people to experience and have fun with EQ, when we have the option to. All of these people all already put in the work to get Ally in the first place. EQ isn't hard.

Still, everyone would love a quick official chime-in on what constitutes a player agreement so we don't agree to roll in advance and have it degrade into a clickfest because of a random jerk.

+1, I am rolling on Phathom at the designated time tomorrow because as much as I enjoy staring at walls for 6 hours I also don’t.

[spanky_kc]

I mean, why even let it go to autofire. I know you got your piece, but the scout was plagued with autofire for years. We can learn from that era.

[Senescant]

Originally Posted by spanky_kc [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean, why even let it go to autofire. I know you got your piece, but the scout was plagued with autofire for years. We can learn from that era.

This. Scout has been so nice since it transitioned to a roll.