Don't buy players overpriced retro-nerf items

[Daldolma]

Legit rant IMO. I felt the same way about anyone paying > 15k for a CoS. It's just idiocy, and idiocy is irritating -- especially from rich people. If you can't bitch about fortunate morons in Rants n Flames, where can you?

[Devil]

Originally Posted by Bruno [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you're genuinely concerned with the morality of players, I would recommend composing a list of the high priced items you feel are going to get nerfed and try to get a Dev's decision on what's going to happen to them. Finding out the facts should be the first priority. Otherwise this is pointless.

We all know this server is meant to be as close to a mirror of a live EQ server as possible. That being said, most of us who played the game in this era know most if not all of the items that eventually get a nerf. There is absolutely no reason why the developers of this server would stray from that whatsoever, unless they completely changed their minds on how they want the server to be.

If you know of an item that got nerfed in live, it WILL get nerfed on here. I don't have to be a dev to tell you I'm 99% positive that is what is going to happen.

[Asher]

Originally Posted by Koota [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let's be honest for a second.

The shit gets nerfed, as in, at a certain point - the shit that drops - at that point - will be nerfed. Not the items that are being sold. It won't overnight have it's stats changed, unless I am seriously mistaken.

I Don't know if you are new to EQ or not but it seems you are seriously mistaken.

MCT and Fungi Robe did get a retroactive nerf on live.

MCT is currently 3 10 primary/second, which is amazing. At some point, assuming they do what was done on live, all MCTs will be nerfed to secondary only and shortly after will stop dropping.

Fungi Robe, again assumming devs follow what was done on live, will have its regen ability removed retroactively. For some reason it also stayed on as the rare IIRC for quite some time and Fungi Tunic remained as the common drop for all of Kunark and maybe all of Velious too.

So while overpaying for a CoS may seem kind of crappy, someone buying a MCT or fungi robe is gonna get a rude awakening one day if they didn't already know what was going to happen.

It probably isn't going to happen but it would be cool if maybe the Devs could add some text on the item stating that it will be nerfed to such and such stats at a later date so people aren't ripped off.

Asher

[Devil]

Originally Posted by Asher [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I Don't know if you are new to EQ or not but it seems you are seriously mistaken.

MCT and Fungi Robe did get a retroactive nerf on live.

MCT is currently 3 10 primary/second, which is amazing. At some point, assuming they do what was done on live, all MCTs will be nerfed to secondary only and shortly after will stop dropping.

Fungi Robe, again assumming devs follow what was done on live, will have its regen ability removed retroactively. For some reason it also stayed on as the rare IIRC for quite some time and Fungi Tunic remained as the common drop for all of Kunark and maybe all of Velious too.

So while overpaying for a CoS may seem kind of crappy, someone buying a MCT or fungi robe is gonna get a rude awakening one day if they didn't already know what was going to happen.

It probably isn't going to happen but it would be cool if maybe the Devs could add some text on the item stating that it will be nerfed to such and such stats at a later date so people aren't ripped off.

Asher

I think they should just make an official sticky of Kunark era items that get retroactively nerfed, and those that don't, just so everyone has the ability to see it, and know upfront. There was a thread about it but it was disorganized and all over the place, just needs to be a list and thats it.

[Asher]

Originally Posted by Devil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think they should just make an official sticky of Kunark era items that get retroactively nerfed, and those that don't, just so everyone has the ability to see it, and know upfront. There was a thread about it but it was disorganized and all over the place, just needs to be a list and thats it.

Not everyone visits this site though. The ideal way, if they wanted to warn people would be to put it on the item.

Asher

[guineapig]

I don't think there is anything wrong with what Jebodiah is saying. In fact, I agree about the price gouging.

[spok]

I am pretty sure devs are gonna try and keep nerfs close to the way they were on live.

I am so curious though - Why is it the Dev's responsibility to notify a player that something is to be nerfed?

I have heard of some lazy shit, but this...is veeerrry lazy. Alt tab from your XP grind and google stuff. Back in 99 nobody had the resources we have to KNOW stuff is going to get nerfed. Be thankful we have a heads up!

If you buy something without knowing the item history and later it gets nerfed /qq in the mirror cause you were the dumbass who didnt do the research.

meh.

[Devil]

Originally Posted by spok [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am pretty sure devs are gonna try and keep nerfs close to the way they were on live.

I am so curious though - Why is it the Dev's responsibility to notify a player that something is to be nerfed?

I have heard of some lazy shit, but this...is veeerrry lazy. Alt tab from your XP grind and google stuff. Back in 99 nobody had the resources we have to KNOW stuff is going to get nerfed. Be thankful we have a heads up!

If you buy something without knowing the item history and later it gets nerfed /qq in the mirror cause you were the dumbass who didnt do the research.

meh.

Oh well, to each his own. It's easy to suspect that the majority of players here know about these items from their Live experience, and that they do get nerfed. The retroactive nerf item list sticky should be put on the forums. Maybe at best they can put an announcement up for a while in game directing to it, so those that DON'T know, can go view it.

Lastly, and kind of as a joke, I guess those who DON'T know that these items get nerfed, they can go through the "Live" experience themselves for the first time, when they log in months down the road from now and their Fungi Robe is missing the +15 Regeneration part. That is, after all, what everyone who played the game back in 2000-2001 had to deal with.

[Asher]

Originally Posted by spok [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am pretty sure devs are gonna try and keep nerfs close to the way they were on live.

I am so curious though - Why is it the Dev's responsibility to notify a player that something is to be nerfed?

I have heard of some lazy shit, but this...is veeerrry lazy. Alt tab from your XP grind and google stuff. Back in 99 nobody had the resources we have to KNOW stuff is going to get nerfed. Be thankful we have a heads up!

If you buy something without knowing the item history and later it gets nerfed /qq in the mirror cause you were the dumbass who didnt do the research.

meh.

I know if I was a new player I would want to google every item before I made a purchase. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[spok]

I know if I was a new player I would want to google every item before I made a purchase.

I would before I spent a lot of plat on an item (10k+). It's pretty lazy and irresponsible of a person to not bother to research such things.

Lets do this. Have the devs automatically put the market value on items, when they get nerfed and how many are on the server. What the heck, lets have the devs even have a list of players who are selling that item and what they are selling it for!

I just dont understand that thought process i guess. I kinda sound like a dick, but it's really a dumb move to just buy shit without knowing anything about it...