Official Staff Explanation on how Green Hybrid/Race Penalty XP will function, please?

[zaneosak]

Originally Posted by Vizax_Xaziv [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Insignificant for ONE level perhaps, sure! On the other hand not only does that additional time start to add up quickly over multiple levels, it also becomes MORE PRONOUNCED as levels (and therefore the exp required to level) increases. All this while many people are going to be rushing to level up so they can be amongst the first wave of players to hit the high-level camps, meaning they're going to be averse to ANYTHING that will slow them down (to any degree)

What about hell levels? Good luck getting a group invite as a hell-level-45 Troll SK!

If you are racing to max level, you are going to be soloing or duo-ing and you will already have your leveling path set. If you are going to start waiting for tanks to come along that only meet your criteria, I am sure your XP per minute sitting at a nice ZERO will be great waiting 90 minutes for the perfect non troll non ogre warrior tank to come along.

If you're racing, you're gonna be in a group of mages slaughtering I believe.

[El-Hefe]

Originally Posted by Vizax_Xaziv [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People will ALWAYS play Warriors! Not only the are they 100% REQUIRED for any raid content post-classic they're also the single best gear-scaling class in the game and a lot of people find that gear-based progression to be rewarding. Furthering that agenda, they also tend to get defaulted gear-priority anytime a guild moves on to new raid targets! (which obviously attracts people as well)

Raiding is like... 10% of the game.

Compared to other classes, warriors are especially rare on blue.

[Vizax_Xaziv]

Originally Posted by El-Hefe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Raiding is like... 10% of the game.

Compared to other classes, warriors are especially rare on blue.

Well I'm just gonna flat-out disagree! If you believe this then I think you'll be very surprised at the number of Warriors you see running around on launch!

[Baler]

according to the patch notes I linked they had groups exp being averaged to compensate for hybrid exp penalty. I dont know if that was classic or if that will be on green.

[BlackBellamy]

I would like an Official Staff Explanation (OSE) on what to do about people making up Excel sheets so they can justify their math-based racism.

[zaneosak]

Originally Posted by BlackBellamy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would like an Official Staff Explanation (OSE) on what to do about people making up Excel sheets so they can justify their math-based racism.

Good thing this tool was created to combat that and show people who are worried about it that the actual real-game examples as it plays out usually amount to what is a +/- hour of game time gained or lost in an average case of grouping. Math nerds who like numbers like myself win and so does everybody else who wants to know the real effects of the system. win-win.

[Verityn]

Originally Posted by zaneosak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Good thing this tool was created to combat that and show people who are worried about it that the actual real-game examples as it plays out usually amount to what is a +/- hour of game time gained or lost in an average case of grouping. Math nerds who like numbers like myself win and so does everybody else who wants to know the real effects of the system. win-win.

You're being very intolerant of my intolerance. Check yo privilege.

[El-Hefe]

SK and Pally Hybrid penalty means people might actually play Warriors.

People don't get that every little thing that gets changed ripples through the server in big ways, you might think that removing hybrid penalties is a small change that won't hurt anyone. But it'd drastically change the make up of the server and skew it towards being overall less classic.

[zaneosak]

Originally Posted by El-Hefe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

SK and Pally Hybrid penalty means people might actually play Warriors.

People don't get that every little thing that gets changed ripples through the server in big ways, you might think that removing hybrid penalties is a small change that won't hurt anyone. But it'd drastically change the make up of the server and skew it towards being overall less classic.

I don't see this being the case. People should play what they want to play. SK and Pallys tank so much better than warriors for most of the leveling journey , especially when there is no weapons readily available. I'd personally rather have a snap aggro-ing SK in my Lower Guk Frenzy group than a warrior (for example) but I'd take whatever I can get because that's the way it should be. If you're min-maxing your groups based on class, you probably are in a guild or have a group of friends in mind to group with.

[El-Hefe]

Originally Posted by zaneosak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't see this being the case. People should play what they want to play. SK and Pallys tank so much better than warriors for most of the leveling journey , especially when there is no weapons readily available. I'd personally rather have a snap aggro-ing SK in my Lower Guk Frenzy group than a warrior (for example) but I'd take whatever I can get because that's the way it should be. If you're min-maxing your groups based on class, you probably are in a guild or have a group of friends in mind to group with.

SKs and Pallys do tank so much better than Warriors, that’s why it makes sense for them to have a penalty. Otherwise, what’s the point of playing a warrior at all? Yes, people should play what they find fun, but obviously the hybrid penalty will result in some people picking Warrior instead, which is great for a server aiming for a classic feel.