Who's more evil?

[BlackBellamy]

Well the one thing that strikes me in the lore is that Necromancers are essentially described as tools. So they are basically told you go learn and study the ancient books and get more power over the dead and your purpose will be revealed later. In essence they are given free reign to pursue their goals. On the micro scale they are free to perform good deeds if it serves their purpose. On the macro scale whatever they are doing they do for the purpose of a malevolent evil god.

Is performing good deeds to ensure eventual evil dominance less or more evil on the scale? Like on one side you're generating good which by an absolute measurement offsets some of the evil you do. However, this involves deception, which raises the evil quotient. And then there is the question of autonomy. Is the plunging knife evil in itself?

Considering the Shadownights, they seem to be self-starters. Their exact relationship to the gods is not defined. The gods do grant them favor, which means they are doing extra evil stuff that the gods like. Regular murderers and scum don't get Lifetap. Since motivation is a large part of what I consider evil behavior, I still have to tip my hat to the SKs.

Necromancers might be working toward a more evil greater outcome, yes. On that scale SKs are irritants, just some random murder harm machines set upon the world to bring some chaos and maybe distract others from what the Necromancers are doing. But for example if I met one of each on some forest road, I would think the SK more evil and more of a threat. I think maybe I can talk to the Necromancer, a scholar can sometimes be brought around, maybe they don't know what they're really doing. But that SK, I know he wants to touch me in my special place.

[Danth]

Don't forget the knight part of Shadow Knight. They're evil, but still basically of a lawful mentality and retaining a sense of honor. Comparisons with the mafia are frequently used. Even the Shadow Knights of the Ogres and Trolls count as the most intelligent and most nearly civilized members of their respective races. The Necromancer is much more likely to be the random murdering psychotic nutter. Who's more evil? Between those two it's a wash; they're using similar tools serving ultimately the same ends, and in cultures which can produce both they tend to share the same guilds.

In practice in Norrath virtually everyone is evil since nearly everyone kills whomever they wish for whatever reason suits their fancy, with but few exceptions. That being said I think Bards are reserved a special circle of Hell all to themselves. Over the past decade it has gradually become the server jerk class.

Danth

[Ennewi]

Who's more evil, Vader (SHD) or Palpatine (NEC)?

The very title of Necromancer implies an abiding love or appreciation for death, though the perverse nature of that could be seen as vile, if not evil.

Shadow Knights and Paladins seem to be two sides of the same coin in Norrath--interchangeable depending on circumstances. The Cabilis SK guards are named crusaders, along with the lizardmen SKs in Cazic Thule, while the ghoul cavalier is a Shadow Knight and a tortured revenant is classified as Paladin.

[Ashenden]

I gotta agree with Iksar Monks. They're born in the Court of Pain and the first thing Master Glox does is handcuff them.

[Videri]

Originally Posted by Ennewi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The very title of Necromancer implies an abiding love or appreciation for death, though the perverse nature of that could be seen as vile, if not evil.

I hasten to add that "romance" is not a root of "necromancer." "-mancer" is a practitioner of a type of magic.
"Necro" comes from "nekros" (ancient Greek for "dead"); "mancy" comes from "manteia" (divination)

[Kanuvan]

necro's raise dead, but SK cause the death with harm touch, seriously nothing is more evil than geting hit by a harm touch for all your lifes

[Baler]

Dr. Frankenstein did nothing wrong!

[zodium]

PC druids are the most evil class by far. Ostensibly sworn to protect animals and nature, while in fact abusing their power over nature basically all of the time, spending all of their time dominating animals' minds and deliberately putting them in danger for personal gain or straight up killing their own deities.

[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by Videri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I hasten to add that "romance" is not a root of "necromancer." "-mancer" is a practitioner of a type of magic.
"Necro" comes from "nekros" (ancient Greek for "dead"); "mancy" comes from "manteia" (divination)

Knew I should have used a better word than "implies" but no such word comes to mind even now. Perhaps one exists in French or Japanese. A curious occurrence or happy coincidence? Serendipity--that's it. But yeah, even necro-philia is merely a "fondness" for what is dead.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Kanuvan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

necro's raise dead, but SK cause the death with harm touch, seriously nothing is more evil than geting hit by a harm touch for all your lifes

It's a welcoming warm glow... how about attempting to pull those ancille cooks in Mistmoore?