Reading UN channel, whos the villian?

[Psyborg]

Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are an idiot. Harsher penalties don't reduce petitions. It makes guilds petition each other more. The only behavior this would change is how fast petitions will fly in. There will be more because getting guild punished will be the goal because it reduces competition.

So here's the thought process for that and the reasons it ended up in both Freedom's and AG's proposals. Stiff punishments for petitions that get escalated to GMs means that guilds are far more likely to solve our quarrels through guild to guild mediation. We could go petition by petition and most or all of those would have been resolved before it ever reached a GM.

We would love to see Riot get on board with this.

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by Psyborg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So here's the thought process for that and the reasons it ended up in both Freedom's and AG's proposals. Stiff punishments for petitions that get escalated to GMs means that guilds are far more likely to solve our quarrels through guild to guild mediation. We could go petition by petition and most or all of those would have been resolved before it ever reached a GM.

We would love to see Riot get on board with this.

I raided from 2012 to 2018 on this server off and on. Stiffer penalties has never made guilds work together. It always does the opposite. The stiffer the penalties get the more petitions guilds put in as a tactic to reduce competition.

[turbosilk]

Originally Posted by kaizersoze [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or do much harsher penalties. Like a 1 week / 2 week full out raid suspension and loot deletion. People will be on their best behavior then.

The penalties obviously aren't harsh enough. There's been a raid guild suspension on average every 1.5 months for the last 5 years. Even with 30+ day suspensions.

You have to identify the rotten apples, permaban them and rinse and repeat when they show back up. They aren't paying customers (nor are any of us) and yet they end up making it a non-paying job for the server GMs to put up with their toxic behaviour. Good riddance.

[Naonak]

Originally Posted by Argh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If they want to limit the number of petitions why not actually limit the number of petitions a guild can file? Make it like challenge flags in football. Limited to a certain number, and if you're correct you get another.

Talking about American Football? That yellow flag is thrown around like a used condom every other play from what I have seen.

[Woke Locc]

Originally Posted by Naonak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Talking about American Football? That yellow flag is thrown around like a used condom every other play from what I have seen.

Challenge flag is red. You get 2 and if you win both, a 3rd. Dunno after that.

[bktroost]

Originally Posted by Argh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If they want to limit the number of petitions why not actually limit the number of petitions a guild can file? Make it like challenge flags in football. Limited to a certain number, and if you're correct you get another.

Whoa... that's actual brilliant.

[Ripqozko]

Bring back the fap forums instead of UN channel, kunark era returns.

[Woke Locc]

The dorkus trying to blame staff for stupid player drama is the villain

[shuklak]

Obligatory, this doesn't happen on red.

[Nexii]

Nice people don't belong in the UN.