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Old 03-15-2021, 03:31 PM
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Seems like this guy primarily geared the list towards how well he feels the classes solo (aka he’s used to modern mmos)
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I think there are way too many variables to come up with a comprehensive list.

I also believe people who make such lists or proclamations of classes XYZ being top or bottom don't well consider difficulty of play, tediousness and assorted QoL stuff. Anyone concerned about a tier list in the first place is someone intending to put a serious amount of time into a character. You really, really should think long and hard about those other things, lest your elf life feel more like a job than a hobby.
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Old 03-15-2021, 04:49 PM
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HEY GUYS I HAEMVE A FUNGI AND CAN SOLI ON A MONK LOL S TIER
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Old 03-15-2021, 10:38 PM
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HEY GUYS I HAEMVE A FUNGI AND CAN SOLI ON A MONK LOL S TIER
I was thinking the same thing but, eh. He's the only one ive ever heard in all of history who said monks solo better then mages. a 35 naked mage can happily melt down hill giants, i'd love to see a typical 35 monk kill some hill giants solo without the greatest gear in the game and maybe not even then could they do it ;D
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Old 03-15-2021, 06:31 PM
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For posterity's sake, I have to say something...

If you're trying to figure out which class to play and have stumbled upon this thread, do yourself a favor and hit the back button. This thread contains only uninformed opinions and shit posts.

But you're on the forums, so perhaps you already knew that ;p
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Old 03-15-2021, 06:37 PM
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For posterity's sake, I have to say something...

If you're trying to figure out which class to play and have stumbled upon this thread, do yourself a favor and hit the back button. This thread contains only uninformed opinions and shit posts.

But you're on the forums, so perhaps you already knew that ;p
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Old 03-15-2021, 06:37 PM
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That tier list is junk-
Wizards can be the best solo'ers in the game if the server was truly set to classic statistics. Even without it Wizards can quad 1st-60th level. I've never seen anything more powerful 1-25th level than a wizard with clarity an jboots. Hell, on live with clarity I could take entire derv camps 12th-14th level while a whole group was struggling to do the same. Only the bard could contest with their mass kite, but the efficiency and speed of wizard quads due to their superior DPS make them best solo'ers till at least 23rd-24th level. Then it picks back up at 29th when the get snare all the way to 60. They only start to have trouble around 45th-50th level when mob hps start doubling, tripling, quadrupling an their spells damage doesn't do the same. Quadding becomes a necessity then in select locations. PBAoE groups can also slam exp better than most anything but those are very few an far between, an wizards are the best dmg PBAoE.
I would say each class has their own situation that they excel at depending on your class an camps. For instance, on live only wizards could quad raptors, because the raptors are supposed to have 5k hps, not 3k hps. An only wizards have spells efficient enough to do 5k-6k damage quadding. I was wondering why all those druids were quadding raptors, now I know. Raptor quads should be the best exp in the game 50+, but on this BS server you get 1-2% instead of 6-8%.
Warrior is the greatest tank in the game, you know the OP doesn't know squat if he doesn't know that. Why do you think an SoD is the greatest weapon in the game? If you didn't have highest HP tank, the warrior, and a cleric with complete heal, nothing hard would ever die. How do you not rate Cleric an Warrior S? Rogues are great DPS. Bards are trash, they can solo OUTDOORS, group wise? Master of none.
Cleric is S
Warrior is S
Bard is D
Wizard C+ or B - on lower level they can be a beast, its higher level 45+ they start to stumble, till they get their epic and a mana robe. Raids they can own.
You can't just rate by ability to solo, group value trumps all. Most of the best content requires groups and raids. You just rated ability to solo.
Something else to mention, gear makes all the difference, in Classic lots of classes struggled. With Kunark, fungi tunics lets warriors solo a plenty for instance.
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That tier list is junk-
Wizards can be the best solo'ers in the game if the server was truly set to classic statistics. Even without it Wizards can quad 1st-60th level. I've never seen anything more powerful 1-25th level than a wizard with clarity an jboots. Hell, on live with clarity I could take entire derv camps 12th-14th level while a whole group was struggling to do the same. Only the bard could contest with their mass kite, but the efficiency and speed of wizard quads due to their superior DPS make them best solo'ers till at least 23rd-24th level. Then it picks back up at 29th when the get snare all the way to 60. They only start to have trouble around 45th-50th level when mob hps start doubling, tripling, quadrupling an their spells damage doesn't do the same. Quadding becomes a necessity then in select locations. PBAoE groups can also slam exp better than most anything but those are very few an far between, an wizards are the best dmg PBAoE.
I would say each class has their own situation that they excel at depending on your class an camps. For instance, on live only wizards could quad raptors, because the raptors are supposed to have 5k hps, not 3k hps. An only wizards have spells efficient enough to do 5k-6k damage quadding. I was wondering why all those druids were quadding raptors, now I know. Raptor quads should be the best exp in the game 50+, but on this BS server you get 1-2% instead of 6-8%.
Warrior is the greatest tank in the game, you know the OP doesn't know squat if he doesn't know that. Why do you think an SoD is the greatest weapon in the game? If you didn't have highest HP tank, the warrior, and a cleric with complete heal, nothing hard would ever die. How do you not rate Cleric an Warrior S? Rogues are great DPS. Bards are trash, they can solo OUTDOORS, group wise? Master of none.
Cleric is S
Warrior is S
Bard is D
Wizard C+ or B - on lower level they can be a beast, its higher level 45+ they start to stumble, till they get their epic and a mana robe. Raids they can own.
You can't just rate by ability to solo, group value trumps all. Most of the best content requires groups and raids. You just rated ability to solo.
Something else to mention, gear makes all the difference, in Classic lots of classes struggled. With Kunark, fungi tunics lets warriors solo a plenty for instance.
I mean on blue I'm a bard and wizard main.. and I swarmed and quadded them. The bard never stops and kills more. You can go 1-50 in a day. The wizard def had some slowdown when the quad nukes got weak then picked back up at 51 but never close to the bard speed
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Old 03-16-2021, 11:54 PM
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I mean on blue I'm a bard and wizard main.. and I swarmed and quadded them. The bard never stops and kills more. You can go 1-50 in a day. The wizard def had some slowdown when the quad nukes got weak then picked back up at 51 but never close to the bard speed
As I was saying, low level wizards (1-25) with clarity own very hard. They virtually have no down time if you keep clarity up an they kill 100x faster than bard DPS wise. Mass kites take 10-30+ mins. Wizard quads take less than 1-2 min for 6-12% a quad. There even mobs slow enough you can quad on low levels without Jboots.
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Old 03-17-2021, 03:12 PM
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As I was saying, low level wizards (1-25) with clarity own very hard. They virtually have no down time if you keep clarity up an they kill 100x faster than bard DPS wise. Mass kites take 10-30+ mins. Wizard quads take less than 1-2 min for 6-12% a quad. There even mobs slow enough you can quad on low levels without Jboots.
Oh good so let me just find an Enchanter who is basically willing to come Clarity me for free every 30 minutes for 25 levels. Sounds very feasible!

Or I guess you could be boxing an Ench and a Wizard and just using the Ench as a Clarity bot
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