Is Seal Team going to wake the sleeper?

[loramin]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It isn't really how you describe it, where Seal Team is just being a dick.

No, pretty sure that it's still a dick move.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, pretty sure that it's still a dick move.

I don't think so. I don't believe it is realistic to expect the other guilds to abide by the "Do not wake Sleeper" rule. Everybody wants a shot at Sleeper, it is one of the coolest events in EQ. Without Dev intervention, waking Sleeper is not a guild specific endeavor. If Seal Team doesn't do it, someone else will.

Just being realistic. Blue would still have Warder loot if the P99 community could resist the temptation to wake Sleeper.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think so. I don't believe it is realistic to expect the other guilds to abide by the "Do not wake Sleeper" rule. Everybody wants a shot at Sleeper, it is one of the coolest events in EQ. Without Dev intervention, waking Sleeper is not a guild specific endeavor. If Seal Team doesn't do it, someone else will.

Just being realistic. Blue would still have Warder loot if the P99 community could resist the temptation to wake Sleeper.

"If I didn't murder the guy and take all his money, someone else would have" ... does not make for either a good legal or moral defense.

[branamil]

Making the sleeper wake-able was a really dumb decision. Imagine giving players the ability to permanently delete 4 pieces of raid content on a time-locked server.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"If I didn't murder the guy and take all his money, someone else would have" ... does not make for either a good legal or moral defense.

That is a huge false equivalency lol. Last time I checked, waking Sleeper isn't a crime, and the P99 UN isn't an actual Government with any real power.

This is a game, and waking Sleeper is an actual feature players can use. It isn't a bug or an exploit.

Also, murdering people and taking their money is basically the main mechanic of this game, so not even a great false equivalency.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is a huge false equivalency lol. Last time I checked, waking Sleeper isn't a crime, and the P99 UN isn't an actual Government with any real power.

This is a game, and waking Sleeper is an actual feature players can use. It isn't a bug or an exploit.

Also, murdering people and taking their money is basically the main mechanic of this game, so not even a great false equivalency.

No one ever said it was a crime. What I wrote was:

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

that it's still a dick move.

And it still is ... regardless of your weak logic that it's ok to be a dick as long as some hypothetical future person will also be a dick. It was a dick move when Rampage did it, and it will be a dick move if and when any Green guild does it.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No one ever said it was a crime. What I wrote was:


And it still is ... regardless of your weak logic that it's ok to be a dick as long as some hypothetical future person will also be a dick. It was a dick move when Rampage did it, and it will be a dick move if and when any Green guild does it.

The only odd logic here is why using a feature literally put into the game by it's creators is a "dick move". It isn't a bug, it isn't an exploit, and the Dev's are not telling players to "Not wake Sleeper or else". If you don't like Everquest, play a different game.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only odd logic here is why using a feature literally put into the game by it's creators is a "dick move". It isn't a bug, it isn't an exploit, and the Dev's are not telling players to "Not wake Sleeper or else". If you don't like Everquest, play a different game.

So your logic amounts to "if it's possible to do in a game, in can never be a dick move"?

Because, again, that's some pretty weak logic you have going there. I can think of lots of things in EQ alone (ignoring every other game in existence) that the game lets me do ... but if I do them (eg. if I KS someone) I'll still be a dick for doing so.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So your logic amounts to "if it's possible to do in a game, in can never be a dick move"? Because, again, that's some pretty weak logic you have going there.

No, that is a pretty drastic misrepresentation of my argument, yet again[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] In P99, there are things you can do in the game mechanic-wise that are valid (such as kill stealing a mob). However, we have rules against it, because we recognize that as "being a dick".

The Dev's have not made any rules against killing the Sleeper, and the Sleeper is working as it was originally intended. Last time I checked, "Classic Everquest" is the subtitle of this very forum lol.

So in it's current state, unless the Dev's change their stance on it, waking the Sleeper is a normal game mechanic, no different than other raid targets. It is also working as intended, in it's classic state.

[Ripqozko]

Sorry you don't got warder loot, consider yellow.