Why do people say SK's do more DPS than Paladins?

[Duik]

Trollocaust.

[Toxigen]

Best trio w/o cleric (and no 2x of 1 class) is enc / shaman / monk (can sub in pally/sk/war here but monk is best).

Could also argue enc / necro / shaman and sticking to undead charm spots. Don't have to focus on keeping pets alive but rather sending them into big packs of mobs and letting all the adds do the damage.

[Duik]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Best trio w/o cleric (and no 2x of 1 class) is enc / shaman / monk (can sub in pally/sk/war here but monk is best).

Could also argue enc / necro / shaman and sticking to undead charm spots. Don't have to focus on keeping pets alive but rather sending them into big packs of mobs and letting all the adds do the damage.

And this has exactly what to do with SK's vs Pal DPS?
I expected better.
No wonder you where banned. (EXP loss death).

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by Duik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And this has exactly what to do with SK's vs Pal DPS?
I expected better.
No wonder you where banned. (EXP loss death).

Threads tend to shift topically by page 3. 2/5 troll attempt.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Duik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And this has exactly what to do with SK's vs Pal DPS?
I expected better.
No wonder you where banned. (EXP loss death).

Well Sk/Pal is a knight question which is tangentially related to monks and rangers too, but by that point you have to acknowledge the group is better without knights so why even bother with a melee… didn’t you follow the thread?!

[Crede]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Best trio w/o cleric (and no 2x of 1 class) is enc / shaman / monk (can sub in pally/sk/war here but monk is best).

Could also argue enc / necro / shaman and sticking to undead charm spots. Don't have to focus on keeping pets alive but rather sending them into big packs of mobs and letting all the adds do the damage.

I know monks are hugely broken, but I’d rather take sk snap aggro/snare in exchange for less mitigation/dps if I’m making a trio. Never seen a trio wipe because of the difference in mitigation between a monk and sk. I’ve seen it wipe because the slower got killed because the monk couldn’t hold aggro. Enchanter/cleric can kill damn near anything so protecting them is the most important IMO. Is a monk an overall better class than a sk? Absolutely but this is one scenario I like sks better.

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know monks are hugely broken, but I’d rather take sk snap aggro/snare in exchange for less mitigation/dps if I’m making a trio. Never seen a trio wipe because of the difference in mitigation between a monk and sk. I’ve seen it wipe because the slower got killed because the monk couldn’t hold aggro. Enchanter/cleric can kill damn near anything so protecting them is the most important IMO. Is a monk an overall better class than a sk? Absolutely but this is one scenario I like sks better.

topic got a little disjointed but i feel ya - i just prefer monk FD / stone / mend for nearly all situations save for some niche camps

if all 3 are competent players monk is the clear choice...but yeah...if not exactly p99 all-stars SK is just more forgiving

its funny...we have to use "no enc / cleric" parameters to even have an interesting conversation about best group trios

I still want to do a static, no twinking, all iksar necro / shaman / monk. Go out in the world and farm for gear upgrades. I think thats gotta be the most baller trio outside of enc / cleric / whatever.

[Insaiyan]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

topic got a little disjointed but i feel ya - i just prefer monk FD / stone / mend for nearly all situations save for some niche camps

if all 3 are competent players monk is the clear choice...but yeah...if not exactly p99 all-stars SK is just more forgiving

its funny...we have to use "no enc / cleric" parameters to even have an interesting conversation about best group trios

I still want to do a static, no twinking, all iksar necro / shaman / monk. Go out in the world and farm for gear upgrades. I think thats gotta be the most baller trio outside of enc / cleric / whatever.

You seem to be missing the best tank in your signature link down there … what gives ?

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by Insaiyan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You seem to be missing the best tank in your signature link down there … what gives ?

SKs are garbage hope this helps

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Just doing a quick parse on a few mobs in Howling Stones, my 58 SK was doing around 58 DPS with https://wiki.project1999.com/Ancient...ched_Flamberge , 54% haste, and Shroud of Death procs.

The SK pet did about 12 DPS with 20% haste, so the pet is boosting an SK's DPS by around 20%. I don't think a Paladin has anything in their toolkit to boost DPS by 20%. This doesn't include SK spells, but obviously casting spells causes melee DPS loss for both Paladins and Shadowknights.