Could mobs see through hide/sneak in classic?

[Pyrocat]

Added to F.A.Q.

[runlvlzero]

Yes, the trick is to con everything before approaching it and remember sneak only works from behind. Although if your clever the back of a mob is almost a 180 degree cone so you can sometimes walk up to them sideways at a 90 degree angle with just sneak on and make it past.

During luclin using just sneak on a level 1 vah'shir I did make it through paludal caverns to shadowhaven once =) that was pretty fun.

[Treats]

Bump on this I guess. From the Sony board:

http://forums.station.sony.com/eq/po...topic_id=65689

I noticed something strange this weekened. I have leveled a couple characters through Dreadlands, so I know that all Drolvargs can see invis. However, when my Rogue graduated to there, I found that they do not see Hide. Certain Drolvargs inside KC, namely the ones up in the "lookout" positions, can see me, but the others can't. I am not standing behind them.

What is up with this? My theory is that in addition to certain mobs being marked "See Invis", certain mob *types* can see invis, as well. Such as Undead, Drolvarg, and certain Gnolls. Sneak/Hide does not hide you from mobs flagged "See Invis" (Shroud of Stealth does, in general)... but it *does* hide you from mobs that see invis due to their "type".

Is that how it works? Or am I just remembering things incorrectly?

I assume he is referring to the Drolvarg Guardians in the lookout positions?

Others can't (Sentry's)

If it is flagged due to NPC type it will see through See Invis but not Hide? (See Invisible)

If it is marked as See Invis will see through both invisible and hide/sneak? (See Hide)

Examples:

Sol B Bats -- Use Sonar for detection
Mob type Sees invisible and also flagged to See Invisible (Sees Sneak/Hide)

Drolvarg Sentry -- Mob type will See Invisible but Unflagged to See Invisible (Doesn't See Hide/Sneak)
Drolvarg Guardian -- Mob type will See Invisible and also flagged to See Invisible (Sees Hide/Sneak)

Random See Invisible Sebilite Juggernaut -- Mob type does not See Invisible
Flagged in Database to See Invis so will see Invisible and Hide/Sneak??

How certain Mobs were set to See Invisible (But Not See Invisible by body type)?
Possibly just a random low percentage chance? No idea.

Hope this kinda makes sense. Thoughts?

[Bohab]

I think a few of the posts in this thread may be related to some kind of bug?

If you are in hide/sneak and you're dragging a corpse, if you right click that corpse (or any corpse for that matter) accidentally all mobs in the zone facing you at that time will be able to see you. If the mob had it's back turned to you, they will not be able to see you. You have to reset your hide/sneak in order to be invisible to them all again. This also happens if you open a trade with another player while in hide/sneak.

This was confusing to me because I stay invisible on my screen and the hide & sneak buttons are still depressed.

[maahes]

hide/sneak was slightly better than invis. It worked on undead and some mobs that saw invis did NOT see through sneak/hide.

Eventually SoS came out in Luclin and hide/sneak went to 99.9% of the mobs in the entire game.

[Nubben]

Just to nitpick, SoS came out in PoP and was level 63 required, but yeah very few things could see through it including most raid mobs.

[maahes]

Originally Posted by Nubben [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just to nitpick, SoS came out in PoP and was level 63 required, but yeah very few things could see through it including most raid mobs.

Your right. I am thinking about the ranged item that looked like a cloak that was called SoS, from VT I believe. The AA came out PoP.

[Danyelle]

Originally Posted by maahes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your right. I am thinking about the ranged item that looked like a cloak that was called SoS, from VT I believe. The AA came out PoP.

Fungus Grove

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=7748

[azeth]

^ ooo that's some heavy nostalgia for me.