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Old 01-16-2025, 02:51 PM
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In poker, this is what as known as a "tell"... meaning, you're saying one thing, but thinking another.

Dancing when you think about speculators coming in, is a tell. This guy is the ultra rich. He is the "oligarchy" he has done nothing, but used politics to make his wealth.

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Old 01-16-2025, 02:56 PM
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Why do dictators, theocrats, and liberals all agree that successful americans are the problem?

I seem to remember the last time a "culture" was doing well and another "culture" wanting to blame them for all their own problems.

Hmm, those were socialists too.. funny.
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Old 01-16-2025, 03:03 PM
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Why do dictators, theocrats, and liberals all agree that successful americans are the problem?

I seem to remember the last time a "culture" was doing well and another "culture" wanting to blame them for all their own problems.

Hmm, those were socialists too.. funny.
You know when you say socialist are you saying Soviet Union, Venezuela or Cuba?

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Or is it the buzz word they feed you.

And America isn't anywhere close to socialism.
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Old 01-16-2025, 03:04 PM
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And America isn't anywhere close to socialism.
our social safety net is better than any commie experiment in human history.

(if you bring up hunter gather communism in a tribe of 50 people from millions of years ago i will punch you through your monitor/phone)
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Old 01-16-2025, 06:22 PM
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our social safety net is better than any commie experiment in human history
Might be true if commie systems were just that bad (I’m not a history buff so I dunno), but here in America our safety net can be pretty shitty depending on what state you live in

Myself if I decided to stop working as a single adult man, let’s say with no friend/family supports, I’d be pretty fucked

Sure, I get free healthcare with no income which is the best part IMO. But not much beyond that. The amount of $$ I would get for food stamps would really help with dieting lol

And “welfare” or TANF simply doesn’t exist for single adults. Even SSID is damn hard to get in my state and doesn’t pay shit if you do. You have to be basically lifelong bat shit psychotic (not depressed, not anxious, not OCD, not bi-polar, none of that) to have a chance in hell of getting it for mental health reasons. Or you better be able to not move at all to get it for medical reasons. You could have a literal terminal illness with a few months left to live and you apply and you can ambulate, somewhat, denied

So I’d be left with free healthcare but still no income and no place to live. And there’s no room at shelters. So I would end up with ample opportunity to utilize that free healthcare in the form of all the infections and diseases I would pick up from living under a bridge or in a storm drain


But this is just in my state, others like CA might roll out the red carpet, I dunno

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Old 01-16-2025, 03:09 PM
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You know when you say socialist are you saying Soviet Union, Venezuela or Cuba?
No I am saying nazi's. The national socialist party and the democrat party are the same thing.

They hated the independently wealthy, and so do you.
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Old 01-16-2025, 03:12 PM
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No I am saying nazi's. The national socialist party and the democrat party are the same thing.

They hated the independently wealthy, and so do you.
And there is the education I am talking about

The Nazis, or the National Socialist German Workers' Party (NSDAP), were not considered socialists in any meaningful way

You kinda walked into that one.
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Old 01-16-2025, 03:17 PM
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COPE!

They are literally socialists, the only difference between them and the DNC is that they didn't allow immigration. But they also both loved cheap labor.

You can't explain in your own words why they are not socialists, because you are wrong.

They were absolutly socialists in every way.

There was no private wealth, buisnesses were distributed organized by the goverment.

They had every social program you want.

Public transportation, paid for by the state.

Free healthcare for its citizens.

It literally, is the utopia you are striving for. You just are propaganda brainwashed to think that they were conservative republicans because the public education system failed in this country 40 years ago.
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Old 01-16-2025, 03:03 PM
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Why do dictators, theocrats, and liberals all agree that successful americans are the problem?

I seem to remember the last time a "culture" was doing well and another "culture" wanting to blame them for all their own problems.

Hmm, those were socialists too.. funny.
the system is turbo fucked though, like just fixing the shit elon did with stocks and taking out loans against those stocks to skirt around having to pay taxes because a stock isn't actually worth what it's worth in the eyes of uncle sam but a bank can use it as collateral on a loan would be a start.

system has more exploits in it than a alpha build of a game on steam. fix all the actual bullshit and then do away with welfare

sink or swim should be universal, but the rich exploit free money from the government more than anyone
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Old 01-16-2025, 03:15 PM
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it's literal horse shoe theory, the VW bug is a communist car, the nazis did socialism better than the CCCP did lol. fuckin idiot.
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