Girdle of Living Thorns or Belt of Dwarf Slaying?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Unresistable damage is special.

Both white damage and damage shield can be "resisted" via a miss. In the case of white damage, it is your miss. In the case of damage shield, it is the mob's miss.

Damage shields are more consistent than white damage, as their damage value never changes. High level raid mobs will also probably have a higher hit chance than the player, and they can do things like flurry. This means more hits on the damage shield.

Damage shields are also subject to becoming less effective in certain scenarios, however, such as the mob being slowed or the mob casting a spell. If you use Willsapper and slow the mob by 35%, the DPS from spikecoat goes down to 0.9 DPS. If you have a Shaman in your group it'll go down to like 0.4 DPS. In that case the ~1.4 DPS from the +26 ATK via Yaulp4 + AoB is going to be better.

[Naethyn]

Max ds on aow is worth 3 rogues.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Max ds on aow is worth 3 rogues.

This thread is about Paladins or Shadowknights getting Girdle. Unless the meta has changed recently, only Warriors are tanking AoW. Also Spikecoat is 4 damage, not the maximum possible damage shield damage value.

[Naethyn]

We’re tanking vulak with clerics we aren’t far off from a knight aow. Warriors are dps now.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We’re tanking vulak with clerics we aren’t far off from a knight aow. Warriors are dps now.

I personally wouldn't suggest that a Knight should get a Girdle just for the hypothetical scenario that Knights may tank AoW at some point in the future. Right now AoW tanking is still done by Warriors.

I assume a Knight tanking AoW would need to have even better gear than what is required for a Warrior to offset the lack of Warrior disciplines. So you would need to be a BiS or near BiS Knight, which is going to take a while.

[Allishia]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I personally wouldn't suggest that a Knight should get a Girdle just for the hypothetical scenario that Knights may tank AoW at some point in the future. Right now AoW tanking is still done by Warriors.

I assume a Knight tanking AoW would need to have even better gear than what is required for a Warrior to offset the lack of Warrior disciplines. So you would need to be a BiS or near BiS Knight, which is going to take a while.

Didn't Captain bevellos steal aow from warriors? He is a paladin too /nod

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Allishia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Didn't Captain bevellos steal aow from warriors? He is a paladin too /nod

Welcome back Allishia! If a Player Paladin got as swole as Bvellos HP-wise, they could tank AoW just fine. One can dream!

[Keebz]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It gives 25 AC too. Or is this part of the supposed "AC doesn't work properly after reaching the softcap" problem on p99?

Doesn't stack with shielding (stave, be bp, hammer) or yaulp, so if you're soloing it's not getting you anything but 4ds at the expense of some HP / MR or whatever yaulp does.

As for raiding, you're probably not tanking anything let alone something that needs an extra 4DS.

Meanwhile, int / wis and AoB are always fire.

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by Keebz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Doesn't stack with shielding (stave, be bp, hammer) or yaulp, so if you're soloing it's not getting you anything but 4ds at the expense of some HP / MR or whatever yaulp does.

It's more armor than shielding and yaulp.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's more armor than shielding and yaulp.

Spikecoat is only 10 more AC than Yaulp, and AoB gives you +2 HP regen, which is also a defensive benefit.

Major Shielding is 23 AC instead of 25 AC, and Major Shielding gives you HP and MR too.

2-10 AC from spikecoat isn't significant enough to claim Spikecoat is better than Yaulp4 + AoB or Major Shielding + AoB.

Dain Hammer (Arch Shielding) gives 35 AC, so it's better AC-wise anyway.