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Old 06-25-2025, 08:09 AM
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I never bothered w/ bloodpoints but thats prob b/c I had a Twisted Steel Bastard Sword at level 46.
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Old 06-25-2025, 12:08 PM
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At 50 I was able to do a bunch of solo with blood points, snare wep, and trunch. Started out by getting the mob snared. Then jousting a trunch until it was slow. Then blood points to stay at a good hp. This was all pre spade though.
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Old 06-25-2025, 06:07 PM
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Counter point:
Buy some ES legs and donals arms.
/who all druid/cle within 5 levels of you above 45.

Get click legs/arms on you forever while you melee the highest dark blues you can sustain on. Get them back at end of session.

Win. Probably a better investment than any one single item on the warrior could ever be.
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Old 06-25-2025, 06:20 PM
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Counter counter point:
Find 2 specific classes in a specific lvl range that wanna mindlessly click items. On an empty(ish) server.
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Old 06-25-2025, 07:27 PM
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Counter counter counter point:
Play an MMORPG exclusively solo, and don't make efforts to play with others that extend beyind what is probably expected.
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Old 06-25-2025, 10:04 PM
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Counter counter counter point:
Play an MMORPG exclusively solo, and don't make efforts to play with others that extend beyind what is probably expected.
Huge jump between grouping with others and giving players items and telling them to be your pocket healer. Lot of ground you didn't cover on that logical leap there.
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Old 07-01-2025, 11:18 AM
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From the other threads like this before, best EC option is the spade. Truncheon relatively distant second. Reaver is probably alright too.

1handers you'd have to calculate hate per minute, proc per minute depending on dex and proc hate. The first 2 are easy but we have no verified numbers for proc hate.

From what I understand Wess and infestation had massive aggro due to having a lot of poison counters but I think all procs got capped at 400 hate. This means wess/infestation probably still proc max hate but it possibly doesn't compensate for inferior ratio anymore, especially for WESS. So better weapons with lesser procs might have overtaken them on the hate charts.

Never seen anyone post any tangible results for this post nerf though. Even less so for EC options. It is very possible something like a SBOZ generates more hate from white damage than a frostbringer.
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Old 07-02-2025, 09:38 AM
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From the other threads like this before, best EC option is the spade. Truncheon relatively distant second. Reaver is probably alright too.

1handers you'd have to calculate hate per minute, proc per minute depending on dex and proc hate. The first 2 are easy but we have no verified numbers for proc hate.

From what I understand Wess and infestation had massive aggro due to having a lot of poison counters but I think all procs got capped at 400 hate. This means wess/infestation probably still proc max hate but it possibly doesn't compensate for inferior ratio anymore, especially for WESS. So better weapons with lesser procs might have overtaken them on the hate charts.

Never seen anyone post any tangible results for this post nerf though. Even less so for EC options. It is very possible something like a SBOZ generates more hate from white damage than a frostbringer.
Infestation proc doesn't add any hate beyond the minimal dmg,as it isn't a debuff, It use useless for warriors now.
Not sure on wess but should be 400hate proc
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Old 07-02-2025, 10:19 AM
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Infestation proc doesn't add any hate beyond the minimal dmg,as it isn't a debuff, It use useless for warriors now.
Not sure on wess but should be 400hate proc
It isn't a debuff but it is still 3 poison counters and I thought poison counters gave a lot of hate?

Did they change how hate works or just the cap?
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Old 07-02-2025, 10:37 AM
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It isn't a debuff but it is still 3 poison counters and I thought poison counters gave a lot of hate?

Did they change how hate works or just the cap?
https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...highlight=Hate

This was the big hate adjustment patch, which dropped at the end of 2022.

While it doesn't talk about poison counters directly, I remember discussions about poison/disease counters being nerfed/bugged hate-wise. People are saying they don't generate hate. I haven't tested it personally.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s....php?p=3643387
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