What does an anti-psychotic do?

[SorenVC]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When you get an infection, are you a weakling for taking a drug to lower your fever? If you break a leg, are you a weakling for wearing a cast?

I don't have "faith" in psych drugs: like I said before, Zyprexa is terrible. But the alternative, of losing control of your own mind, strikes me as more terrible.

Again, I took Zyprexa last night. Today I'm probably going to gain weight, have a harder time focusing, and tonight I'll have "restless leg syndrome" like crazy ... because, again, Zyprexa sucks.

But if I didn't take it, I know it can set off a spiral where I ultimately get super irritable, can't sleep, talk too fast, etc. For me, the trade-off of taking the drugs is worth it.

If you're getting headaches so bad you can't sleep, and you've tried the suggestions I quoted (drink more water, take some Advil, etc.) and they haven't worked, then taking care of yourself might mean stopping the drug now instead of in four days. I'm not advocating for taking or not ... I'm advocating for taking (good) care of yourself.

What if you never lost your mind? That's what they all say to give you the drugs to help you. This guy is "schizophrenic" so we must give him medicine. And they pretend to care but they don't know what the medicine does. It just matters that it is FDA approved like PRIME and then even children can get it. In my opinion these psychiatrists and therapists have no idea what they are doing. They are just pretending to help you, giving you more prescriptions. If they didn't give you any prescriptions, they would just be called psychologists. You know, the guys who listen to you and try to give solutions without setting you on drugs.

But no we must give drugs to children. Was I not a child at 16 years old? If I knew what it does and that it was painful or impossible to come off from, I would have never agreed to take it. It is just a scam in my opinion. The entire dsm classifications in psychiatry is a scam to put people on drugs legally.

[SorenVC]

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[loramin]

Originally Posted by SorenVC [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What if you never lost your mind? That's what they all say to give you the drugs to help you. This guy is "schizophrenic" so we must give him medicine. And they pretend to care but they don't know what the medicine does. It just matters that it is FDA approved like PRIME and then even children can get it. In my opinion these psychiatrists and therapists have no idea what they are doing. They are just pretending to help you, giving you more prescriptions. If they didn't give you any prescriptions, they would just be called psychologists. You know, the guys who listen to you and try to give solutions without setting you on drugs.

But no we must give drugs to children. Was I not a child at 16 years old? If I knew what it does and that it was painful or impossible to come off from, I would have never agreed to take it. It is just a scam in my opinion. The entire dsm classifications in psychiatry is a scam to put people on drugs legally.

I hear your frustration. We don't yet have the medicine we need to treat many mental illnesses, so it's a bit like getting polio or something, back before we knew how to fully cure it.

A good friend of my wife is going through a manic episode right now: she's left her husband and kid, is living (for now) in a motel, and has stopped speaking to any of her friends. No one can do anything, because even if they could force a pill down her throat, there's no such magic pill.

So, it's all fucked up: what do you do? You can use it as an excuse to give up, but that's the path my wife's friend took. Sanity can be incredibly hard to get back once you've lost it.

Or do you say fuck! Nothing in life is ever fucking easy: half the doctors are incompetent, and more than half of the drugs don't work (or have terrible side effects) ... but, even so, you don't give up. You try different doctors, drugs, diets, exercise, meditation, and so on ... until you're in a place you can live sane and comfortably.

[SorenVC]

I don't really need much to live life. I can live life in my small apartment with the basics. If I have a smartphone with internet it is even easier. I always said prison would be heaven with no prisoners inside.

You call it "giving up" when one becomes a hermit like that friend you speak of. Well ok then I give up. I will try to get a job. But other than that, I don't feel any duty to do anything else than doing a job and be a respectable member of society, or some nonsense like that.

[Ekco]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A good friend of my wife is going through a manic episode right now: she's left her husband and kid, is living (for now) in a motel, and has stopped speaking to any of her friends. No one can do anything, because even if they could force a pill down her throat, there's no such magic pill.

So, it's all fucked up: what do you do? You can use it as an excuse to give up, but that's the path my wife's friend took. Sanity can be incredibly hard to get back once you've lost it.

depending on what triggered it they might come back actually better if its an emotional baggage type situation

my last manic adventure rewired my whole brain it seems like and i've never felt better since, only downside was maxing out credit cards n shit lol

[loramin]

Originally Posted by SorenVC [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't really need much to live life. I can live life in my small apartment with the basics. If I have a smartphone with internet it is even easier. I always said prison would be heaven with no prisoners inside.

You call it "giving up" when one becomes a hermit like that friend you speak of. Well ok then I give up. I will try to get a job. But other than that, I don't feel any duty to do anything else than doing a job and be a respectable member of society, or some nonsense like that.

You do you, but I didn't mean "give up on society's expectations of you". You should absolutely do that (although I can't imagine you'll find happiness and fulfillment as a hermit)

I meant don't give up on yourself or on sanity.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Ekco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

depending on what triggered it they might come back actually better if its an emotional baggage type situation

my last manic adventure rewired my whole brain it seems like and i've never felt better since, only downside was maxing out credit cards n shit lol

Glad to hear you came back on your own. Hopefully she will too.

[Reiwa]

Anti-psychotics are all well and good but can never cure a spiritual sickness.

My German friend, could it be said that the Americans are currently experiencing a Sauberung as a sensible statement in your language?

[SorenVC]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anti-psychotics are all well and good but can never cure a spiritual sickness.

My German friend, could it be said that the Americans are currently experiencing a Sauberung as a sensible statement in your language?

No.

Just tell me why I wake up with a headache, do anything with a headache and go to sleep with a headache and repeat when I was using Olanzapine. No matter the amount. I didn't take Olanzapine yesterday on 9/11. What a remarkable date to stop this drug use. And I didn't fall asleep.

Guess I will stay awake every night now for 1 or 2 months. Then it should get better. If I die, I die. But I certainly won't kill myself. Never. The headache was worse than no sleep. I only wonder when I will get back the ability to sleep.

Also while staying awake at 00:00 or so I experienced some heavy blood flow or something like this in my brain. Maybe my brain is rebuilding and healing what Olanzapine destroyed and it will be that for a month until I can sleep on my own again.

What do you mean as Sauberung though? And why the Americans? In politics, everything is staged everywhere. I will never go to vote ever again and I stopped voting.

[SorenVC]

Säuberung in my language means as you used it, that weak naive people in a population get killed while the strong survive. I never believed in such a thing to be honest.