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Old 10-13-2025, 05:33 PM
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P.S. Has anyone done basement as a Cleric? I'm looking for somewhere to solo my 55 Cleric, but HS is so unforgiving ... it'd be nice to hear if others have tried it first.
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Old 10-13-2025, 05:36 PM
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If I remember right the lowest level mob in basement was one of the skellies, I'm forgetting the name, but that was the first to go green and remained the only green for a level or two. To reiterate, I can definitely be remembering wrong. But knowing my habits I would have left the camp if even a 1/4 of the mobs turned green.
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Old 10-14-2025, 12:01 AM
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My Iksar Necro lived in HS basement from 54-60. I am Scowling to the OT outpost. However, when I use the Lich line of spells I go to Apprehensive and happily vendor all my lazy Droga loot and bank with the Outpost. No need for FD at the wall to bank nor an invis needed to stroll around.
Just an update, something is not smelling right here. I did go in tonight and kill, I'm still not bottomed out with Venril Sathir and I am dubious, so relying on this information was sub-optimal. At the end of the day I'm committed now, but this did throw me off with my decision making. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So for those following up on this and wondering, no, max scowls for an Iksar necromancer is NOT apprehensive. At best its dubious, and potentially threatening at worst. I'll update when I eventually bottom out because I'm stuck at this point.


I wish I could edit my mid-thread response on this subject as it sort've carries forward inaccurate information which I know is now false after verifying. Is there any way to delte/edit an old message? Edit button seems to be gone.
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Old 10-14-2025, 06:33 AM
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Just an update, something is not smelling right here. I did go in tonight and kill, I'm still not bottomed out with Venril Sathir and I am dubious, so relying on this information was sub-optimal. At the end of the day I'm committed now, but this did throw me off with my decision making. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So for those following up on this and wondering, no, max scowls for an Iksar necromancer is NOT apprehensive. At best its dubious, and potentially threatening at worst. I'll update when I eventually bottom out because I'm stuck at this point.


I wish I could edit my mid-thread response on this subject as it sort've carries forward inaccurate information which I know is now false after verifying. Is there any way to delte/edit an old message? Edit button seems to be gone.
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These are my factions after plenty of leveling in HS and, as far as I know, no concerted effort to faction for OT outpost. Scowling before Lich, Apprehensive with Lich.
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Old 10-14-2025, 09:11 AM
Waffles_McGregor Waffles_McGregor is offline
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Your pictures I think account for the issue, you're using Arch Lich and I'm just using Lich. I don't have Arch Lich yes so its very possible that has a more beneficial faction multiplier vs Lich.

Ultimately if this is the case, this messes up my math and I Was closer to threatening than max scowls.

But I had fun down there so it is what it is, I'm committed!
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Old 10-14-2025, 09:15 AM
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Demi Lich also gets me to Apprehensive. But I suppose it is true I have only tried Arch Lich and Demi Lich. I'll test others after work today.
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Old 10-14-2025, 09:39 AM
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P.S. Has anyone done basement as a Cleric? I'm looking for somewhere to solo my 55 Cleric, but HS is so unforgiving ... it'd be nice to hear if others have tried it first.
im sure its been done but why? its crap for a cleric

better off in KC basement if you really are keen on solo

safe spot for med/afk, all undead, no harm touch
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Old 10-14-2025, 09:39 AM
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Demi Lich also gets me to Apprehensive. But I suppose it is true I have only tried Arch Lich and Demi Lich. I'll test others after work today.

Yeah, let me know!

I suppose I've learned something (pending your confirmation), specters and skeletons apparently offer different faction modifiers. Once we confirm this is another interesting tool for necro factionquesters.

(It's got me curious if I can get enough faction to hit amiable with bards in Kelethin for example, although I'm 99.9% sure not.)
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Old 10-14-2025, 11:19 PM
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Yeah, let me know!

I suppose I've learned something (pending your confirmation), specters and skeletons apparently offer different faction modifiers. Once we confirm this is another interesting tool for necro factionquesters.

(It's got me curious if I can get enough faction to hit amiable with bards in Kelethin for example, although I'm 99.9% sure not.)
My apologies, I just perused my logs going way back and I was getting Venril Sathir faction from VP raids far more often than I imagined. I guess all those DA engages were paying dividends beyond being the token Necro at the raid...

For what it is worth, I checked faction with Lich and it was also bringing me to Apprehensive. I suppose if you feel like subjecting yourself to Pained Soul and Rotting Skeleton, this is certainly a unique reason to do so.
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Old 10-15-2025, 08:49 AM
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I am bottomed out Scowls with my Necro, and in Lich form I am scowls.
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