The benefit of Warriors?

[Phallax]

On live i remember Taunt actually generating threat instead of how it works here, putting you to the top of the list(exactly like WoW's taunt). So thats where a lot of warrior agro came from w/o proc weapons

The only time taunt would put you on the top of the list on Live was with AE taunt when AAs were released.

[Arrisard]

Originally Posted by Phallax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On live i remember Taunt actually generating threat instead of how it works here, putting you to the top of the list(exactly like WoW's taunt). So thats where a lot of warrior agro came from w/o proc weapons

The only time taunt would put you on the top of the list on Live was with AE taunt when AAs were released.

Pretty sure Taunt and AE taunt is top of hate list +1

[Collum]

thats the way I remember it.

I started playing a warrior as my first toon during the velious xpac. I played it through OOW. I dont recall ever having agro problems. Then again, as earlier posted, people were a lot more careful not to blast away before an engage was called.

[azeth]

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[Phallax]

Originally Posted by Arrisard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty sure Taunt and AE taunt is top of hate list +1

I remember warriors having to save their AE taunt for "oh shit" situations or tank rotation. If AE taunt was that important to save during a single target tank and spank fight why would you even need it if taunt acted the same way?

P99 yes its top +1 but it should only generate threat

[Pescador]

Low delay weapons aren't generating aggro like they did on live, so you need to rely on proccing weapons for aggro in group situations. In raid situations, disciplines and higher hp/ac/defensive skillcaps makes warriors totally dominant over knights. As mentioned before, midnight mallets can be used on bosses to instantly grab aggro.

[Arrisard]

Originally Posted by Phallax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I remember warriors having to save their AE taunt for "oh shit" situations or tank rotation. If AE taunt was that important to save during a single target tank and spank fight why would you even need it if taunt acted the same way?

P99 yes its top +1 but it should only generate threat

AE taunt was a 100% success rate. Regular taunt wasn't. That's what made it so valuable in the situation you described.

[Phallax]

Originally Posted by Arrisard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

AE taunt was a 100% success rate. Regular taunt wasn't.

OMG IT WAS AE?!?!

Yes but taunt still generated agro and not top +1, cant find any patch notes or anything to help my arguement but thats how it worked on live.

[Arrisard]

Um, ok. Anyways, a brief look on Google with some even basic terms like Everquest, warrior, and taunt all seem to read as top of hate list +1 and that's certainly how I remember it behaving.

http://www.thesteelwarrior.org/forum...ad.php?t=16505

Some of the Dev's posting about the timing of Taunt and why Taunt mashers are stupid seem to strongly imply there isn't a static +hate attribute.

[Kevlar]

Originally Posted by Arrisard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

AE taunt was a 100% success rate. Regular taunt wasn't. That's what made it so valuable in the situation you described.

Plus regular taunt doesn't (or didn't) work on higher level mobs, which all raid bosses are.