Supposed friend steals everything from me - Page 3

Flunklesnarkin · #21 10-26-2011, 10:00 AM

Wow i just group with damme last night... you sure they are all the same person....

might have to add to ignore list just to be safe :\

Atmas · #22 10-26-2011, 10:03 AM

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scamming is a legitimate playstyle

When you make a server you have the option to make that true.

MrSparkle001 · #23 10-26-2011, 10:06 AM

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in the real world retardation has consequences that are not generally relieved by some benevolent entity.

was probably also fun for the guy stealing the other guys stuff, why should we eliminate one guys fun in lieu of anothers?

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scamming is a legitimate playstyle just as much as mindlessly killing 20 million mobs, pretty sure genocide and murder are both illegal in the real world as well.

if someone hands over shit to someone else and/or "shares" accounts/items with someone else and that someone else ends up helping themselves it is nobodys fault but the person who allowed for it to happen.

policing it just leads to more issues when soandso decides to make up a story about a previously agreed to arrangement, even verant did not get involved in such matters.

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Kudos to the GMs for "intervening" here.

Leeyuuduu · #24 10-26-2011, 10:13 AM

When I was on classic I died like 20 times trying to get a corpse on my gnome..then petitioned because I was pretty distressed (this was 1999 and I was a 13 year old boy - it was serious business). A GM came and gave me a backpack with a full set of armor and food/drink.
Compassion is classic

And EQ did in fact take action against and ban scammers, at least in the early days. The thought that the same people who invented "Play Nice" policies would sit around and turn a blind eye at people getting scammed is kind of a step back in terms of logic.

WizardEQ · #25 10-26-2011, 10:23 AM

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The staff of p99 has always asked that people who play here behave as decent human beings.

Thank you for stating this and upholding "decency" rules as just opposed to "written" rules. The rules are written for those who tend to break them or cause malice and chaos. If everyone adhered to your simple statement, there would be no need for rules. Disputes will always occur, but if mediated quickly usually lead to resolve.

I do remember a scam from early EQ of people invising and standing in between parties making transactions in EC. Back then most of us didn't necessarily look at the person you were trading with, we just made sure the pp and items were what was agreed upon. After hitting TRADE and then not getting said item or pp, it took a while before we figured out what was happening. I know it seems childlike now, but that was a huge scam and IIRC the GMs did nothing about it, even though it was 100% fraud!

Giving your items to a stranger on-line seems like a crapshoot. They could be untrustworthy or simply never sign on again. I'm reluctant to trade with anyone that's not a friend or established in a guild I know, even though I believe most people are trustworthy. This person is extremely lucky to have understanding GMs here!

Pringles · #26 10-26-2011, 11:44 AM

Yay Amelinda!

Slathar · #27 10-26-2011, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Darwoth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

in the real world retardation has consequences that are not generally relieved by some benevolent entity.

was probably also fun for the guy stealing the other guys stuff, why should we eliminate one guys fun in lieu of anothers?

this guy is like 40 years old and a white-power nationalist. look at how much he cares about eq.

dcapotos · #28 10-26-2011, 11:56 AM

I knew something was seriously wrong when I was grouping with a grossly over twinked lv5 mage in crushbone offering to give out free items to all of us (and proclaiming to be drunk at the time). Damme's argument was that it was a legitimate trade from a person who was quitting the game. Now I don't feel bad that I gave back the stuff that was given to me.

dcapotos · #29 10-26-2011, 12:02 PM

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this guy is like 40 years old and a white-power nationalist. look at how much he cares about eq.

Funny, his character, Damme, is an erudite...
Is there any validity to these accusations? Damme seemed to be very nice and friendly.

Darwoth · #30 10-26-2011, 12:37 PM

pretty sure hes talking about me, thats the standard mantra thrown about by the illinformed sensationalist retards on account of the fact that our guild shuns teenieboppers and openly discuss modern issues regardless of whether or not they are politically correct on our message boards.

guess i better go say sieg heil and eat some sausage now and what not.

in any case amelinda pvp servers and the traditional rules of such are different than blue servers, let me pose a hypothetical since it will eventually happen as it happened thousands of times on both rz and sz (probably tz and vz also if they had coin loot).

player a sets up a trade for say a manastone with player b, player b agrees to pay 100k for the manastone, upon placing the cash in the trade window several of player A's wizard friends gate in and blast player b thereby making off with the 100k

would you as a guide get involved with player B's petition if there is one and if so to what extent?

what about player a does not like player c who is a wizard, player a sees player c looking to buy something and has someone pretend he has one for sale and then waits at the nearest port to gank the wizard, turns out the wizard already has money on him for the item. are you involved or not and to what extent?

what about when guild a and guild b are fighting over fear, there are several mobs dead on the ground and due to the fighting looting rights have become open to them, a player from group a loots a chestpiece off of a mob that group b killed during the fighting. are you involved in that?

these among other issues are standard daily occurances on a pvp server, seeing this thread it seems like is as good a time as ever to determine what will be interfered with and what will be left alone.