Starting as an Iksar - Bad Idea?

[Wudan]

Originally Posted by FoxxHound [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Iksar is my favorite race too, and I have a sham.
Though I wouldn't suggest it. Leveling is slow + most don't want you in their group!

It does not matter. Why do people even care about this? Where exactly are you rushing when the next and last expansion is not even on the horizon?

I recommend making Iksar Shaman and focusing on scaled mystic armor quest line and shaman skull quests line.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by Wudan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

dude, i have played shaman on live to 70lvl 12k mana, 10k hp, I know pretty much everything about the class.

....if everyone thought the way you do, then the server would only see the best possible combos of race/class which would be pretty boring! Its not just about starting stats and abilites!

I really really hate this "math geek" approach to picking the race/class tha many people hold. Iksar is awsome race with one of the best starting areas and armor quests. Screw starting stats, cause they dont matter in long run. Screw faction and banking, it only makes the game more interesting when it is more difficult. I dont wanna be able to bank on every corner.

Being an Iksar means picking the hard way, which is more rewarding and not for pussies.

I didn't mention how much you know about the class - because I was honest and don't know. I pointed out that you obviously don't know how much Mardur knows. And nothing you said indicates that you do.

So you're assuming he knows nothing because he believes that mathematically, Iksar are the worst shaman race. And then you went on to say that picking the Iksar is the hard way and that you hate the mathematical approach to picking characters, basically admitting that at least *arguably*, he's right.

[Tuffpuppy]

Being that nobody knows how long it will be till Velious will be released, I would have to agree that Iksars are the worst race for the Shaman class. I made my Shaman an Ogre and loving all my HP and partial stun immunity, not to mention not having that severe exp penalty is nice.

[FoxxHound]

Originally Posted by Wudan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It does not matter. Why do people even care about this? Where exactly are you rushing when the next and last expansion is not even on the horizon?

I recommend making Iksar Shaman and focusing on scaled mystic armor quest line and shaman skull quests line.

Why does it matter?
Well if they are new to the game or just returning, and don't have people who came with them. It could be somewhat of a nuisance. I don't play much anymore due to rarely finding a group.

[Wudan]

Originally Posted by FoxxHound [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why does it matter?
Well if they are new to the game or just returning, and don't have people who came with them. It could be somewhat of a nuisance. I don't play much anymore due to rarely finding a group.

I started 1 month ago and knew nobody. Im now approaching lvl 30, have full set of scaled mystic quested gear, many good friends I met along the way to grp with and Im member of cool guild of mid lvl players which makes things even easier when you need to find grp or help for questing.

[Fazlazen]

iksar and troll are superior grouping and raiding shamans. They have more hp regen, which allows more canni. Torpor reduces the impact of hp regen to a certain degree, but it remains important nonetheless. Iksars/trolls with regrowth and fungi tunic will be regening at over 45 a tick, thats alot. In those settings, no shaman should be using jbb as there is better stuff you can do with your mana/time.

Ogre, troll and barbs all have the edge when it comes down to soloing because they have access to the jbb. With the insane amount of bashes that we get on this server, I'd say that if you want to be a tanking torporing shaman who solos alot at the high end, you should really go Ogre. They fixed (broke) bash on this server that now you pretty much get chain bashed if you have 2 mobs on you.

In top end gear, jbb can be replaced to some extent by dots and a bit more canniing/torporing, so iksar might have a bit more work to do and have a bit less choice in the way you damage mobs, but you'll be fine regardless.

[Wudan]

Originally Posted by Tuffpuppy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Being that nobody knows how long it will be till Velious will be released, I would have to agree that Iksars are the worst race for the Shaman class. I made my Shaman an Ogre and loving all my HP and partial stun immunity, not to mention not having that severe exp penalty is nice.

Stun - its such a minor advantage for shaman that Im always surprised ppl even mention it. Big lol

Exp penalty... picking race based on exp penalty is imho weak, very weak!

Being big, fat and ugly and starting in Innothule is why I could never play Ogre plus they just look like shit ...

[Hitchens]

Ogres start in the Feerott.

[Fazlazen]

Originally Posted by Drakaris [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know... if the devs wanted to fix the lack of content for iksar mail/plate classes they could just introduce iksar planar armor ahead of the timeline since its on par with planar/kunark class armor... but hey... if they stuck to the timeline it will be introduced at when people can easily farm better plate quest armor in Vellious, which kinda defeats the purpose of putting it in...

This makes sense, especially since the iksar planar gear came out about 11 months after kunark came out, so we'd still be respecting the timeline.

[webrunner5]

Play what you want. This I don't want them in a group is just not happening mid to low level groups on here. There are not that many groups so if you find someone LFG you will get them no matter what race or class penality.

Although 5 Iksar SK's and me as a Halfling Cleric in one group would sort of suck lol.