Dragons and Nihilum

[korzax]

Pretty obvious at this point the dragons need to be removed untill they are fixed. Fighting for an hour then having the dragon bug out and getting accused of exploiting is pure bullshit. More props to the people that are willing to risk a ban fighting buggy content in a 13 year old game.

[Lawler]

Originally Posted by pojab [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i dunno i think you guys need to work on your fake aoe timer messages. "trololol".

[Labanen]

She AoEs, we hide from the AoE, thats all fine. But, you cannot use that spot to melee her too, and even more importantly you do not get in an argument about it midraid, you take that up with the leaders afterwards, during a battle if told to move, you move.
This was made abundantly clear from the start of the raid too.

When you get into an argument midraid while still not doing as told, you leave leaders with the option of risking guildbans or killing you, pretty simple choice, im pretty sure everyone would ve prefered that you just had said "ok, sorry" and moved, I am with Beo on this thinking that you didnt do it with malicious intend, and not knowing any better, it may have seemed like a good idea to melee there, it just REALLY isnt. I think Amelinda might ve thrown you a bone by saying she lagged out, because she also dont think you did it with bad intends... thats just speculations though. Basicly all you got for your mistake was a slap over the wrists in the form of a pvp death - shouldnt be such a big deal.

Originally Posted by Steaks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

now i understand the guild does not want to exploit if they dont have to ( hell i wouldnt want to either ) and i didnt think they meant to or wanted to but they did , and they shit on me for noticing it , and all i did was notice it

No we do not, its fine to hide from AoE, thats what you "noticed" but game-mechanics should be so that if you hide behind a wall or in another room, then you cant also melee at the same time, there is a bug that allows you to do so, and if you use an exploit you risk bans, if you do it on a raid then the guild risk bans.

Originally Posted by Steaks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i also noticed that quite a few people didnt even bother to dodge aoes they just sat in one spot

that actually means they were dodging AoEs, that would be healers, casters medding and melees between AoEs or people on emergency AFK... other people than you had to go during a 76 min fight.

Originally Posted by Steaks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

there were some people that never moved the entire fight

Yes, they are called clerics, I am one of them.

Originally Posted by Steaks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i was helping with goblins and dodging the ( imaginary ) aoes so i didnt pay too much attention

Care to shed some light on what you mean by "imaginary" ? hiding from AoE is because they are very real, and will own a lvl 34 woodie very fast.

[Amuk]

You can join Fishbait Steaks.

[EverquestJunkie]

Its pretty clear these dragons arnt working right

Why not just stop them from spawning till this problem is 100% confirmed working right.
???????????????

[beowulf420]

Theyre fine. There are only a few minor issues affecting the kill, namely the inability to push.

[jdklaw]

Originally Posted by Steaks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

apparently staff watched the fight too , amelinda said she was all lagged out from running two instances of p99 ( Get a real comp or close the other jesus ) wtf are you a guide for go make me a sandwinch

CONVENIENT AND GOOD QUESTION

[Lazortag]

it was funny but vox is part of eq classic history and killing her is super , but here apparently she cant be interrupted by push , or that push does not work at all , im not sure which , so nihilum pulls her to the gate and does a long drawn out type fight , like tov trash dragons when not enough people are stealing mana kinda ( except it was an hour not 5 minutes )

I only read up to here. Vox can be interrupted by melee push. The last Vox kill I participated in with Divinity we had something like 35 people and we pushed her easily. The fact is Nihilum does not attempt these bosses with the correct numbers, and then complains that they are "bugged" (such as their regen rates, etc.) when in fact it's their lack of dps/numbers that causes the fights to seem artificially harder. This is their excuse for exploiting dragons. Don't believe me, just ask Reiker.

Originally Posted by beowulf420 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Theyre fine. There are only a few minor issues affecting the kill, namely the inability to push.

See above.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I only read up to here. Vox can be interrupted by melee push. The last Vox kill I participated in with Divinity we had something like 35 people and we pushed her easily. The fact is Nihilum does not attempt these bosses with the correct numbers, and then complains that they are "bugged" (such as their regen rates, etc.) when in fact it's their lack of dps/numbers that causes the fights to seem artificially harder. This is their excuse for exploiting dragons. Don't believe me, just ask Reiker.



See above.

OH, i didn't know divinity was killing vox on red.

[Salty]

The difference between Holocaust and Nihilum is that Holocaust exploited after two months of GM inaction, after Nihilum had been getting away with so much for so long, with screenshots and logs showing their crimes. Holocaust admits wrong doing while Nihilum still lies, blacks out screenshots, and refuses to submit logs. Nihilum played the GMs for suckers by harassing them to monitor Holocaust's raids to eliminate the competition they fail to kill in PvP when they themselves were guilty of the same crime.


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