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Old 02-29-2012, 09:00 PM
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even with the 60% xp penalty mages will still level faster (solo) than hybrids (ae kiting bards excluded). they can just kill so much faster, and higher level mobs than melee hybrids. they can heal their pets, so they in effect become a healer with a tank. much more effective than a hybrid (sk/pal/rng) having to sit and regen between fights
No they won't. Because if you nuke at all let alone heal you will be OOM all the time. If you have to sit on your butt medding for 8 minutes you might as well be a Cleric or a Druid. A Mage has no real CC, so their pet is King. With the pet nerf a Mage to me is a total waste of time.

I have just totally stopped playing mine. I am not into Gating every time you turn around to get out of trouble to have to kill 100 mobs to get 20% XP. Maybe in the begining they where overpowered. But back in 1999 you could not get a group as a Mage to save your ass. They where a odd duck class that HAD to solo. Years later everyone wised up and figured out they where really a killer class to play.

I don't know what the answer is to them, but to me, they, the Devs, killed a Mage to me. If you are level 50 or above I think it is not as much a deal. But if you start out as a Mage you have a long hard road to hoe. As bad as a Ranger. Well nothing is that bad lol.
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Old 03-01-2012, 10:02 AM
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thanks for all the input...
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Old 03-01-2012, 12:26 PM
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Question : if 2 mages duo and the 2 mages deals zero damage, but their pets did 100% damage to the mob, will the 2 mages still get full xp?
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Old 03-01-2012, 07:44 PM
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what if you charm a mob, attack another, get both to 10-15%, then drop charm and kill both?
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Old 03-01-2012, 08:25 PM
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what if you charm a mob, attack another, get both to 10-15%, then drop charm and kill both?
Then you should get full XP for both. It's really not that bad for classes who charm.
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Old 03-02-2012, 01:19 PM
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Question : if 2 mages duo and the 2 mages deals zero damage, but their pets did 100% damage to the mob, will the 2 mages still get full xp?
I am not sure because apparently the penalty goes away when the mage and pet are grouped.

But what about when the pet does the majority of the damage in a group? For example when a cleric and mage duo, then the cleric will be healing the pet bc clerics heal. Then the pet does the majority of damage. Will the cleric and mage get the exp? Or will the pet take some exp?
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Old 03-02-2012, 05:21 PM
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I had no idea such a penalty existed. I don't see why a mage would be penalized for using a pet to kill a mob. That would be like putting an xp penalty on Warriors who use a weapon. It's an essential part of playing a mage, and it's not like having a pet makes the game super easy. It just makes it possible to be played.

I see the suggestions about dismissing the pet to get xp and all that, but frankly, I don't feel like we should have to find loop-holes just to play as one particular class.
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Old 03-02-2012, 05:46 PM
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I agree that the nerf is kind of ridiculous, and the agro nerf is just insane, but really the method I suggested is hardly anymore difficult than leveling as a pre-nerf mage. Do you all not chain pet when you are soloing? If you are not then you should start because I can not imagine what you would be doing. Then, to bypass the nerf, all you have to do is desummon your current pet at the end, resummon a new one, and do a small nuke (a large enough nuke to do over 50% of remaining xp).

Also you can use the agro nerf to your advantage. If you are trying to split some mobs send a pet on one, then continually sit and stand to pingpong the rest of the mobs back and forth while you let your pet solo the one. Sitting down generates enough agro so pull the others off your pet as long as hes not hitting them.
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