Stages of Grief: Its Science

[Traderjoes]

Originally Posted by compulsion [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A month from now, when we have 200% xp bonus and YT, someone will post that the only way to recover population will be to re-skin all the orc models in hot pink. These solutions are just some mode of desperation that is beyond any type of reasoning.

Did PoF increase population? No. Did xp bonus? Not after a month. Did PoH, SolRo, or global ooc increase population? Nope. Population is less than it was a month ago.

My only real point was something drastic needs to change. All the current changes are fine but too late. Devs did not care or were too ignorant to realize their project was going down the shitter. Only something drastic can help this server and even 200% exp will not work now. GG server done. I will still log in a little to pwn noobs but atleast I am not in denial about how shit gone the server is. Maybe it might recover.. in 6-8 months... But i know I wont be wasting my life waiting for that.

[Mornin3.0]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

bro this stuff came after the majority of players already quit. i mean for god's sake you got poeple playing sailor moon online.

lol

[hijinks]

The only thing at this point that will rejuvenate the server is Kunark. Nothing less. Nothing more.

Between now and Kunark many people who play will step away, and new players who are curious will come check it out. I expect pop to steady out between 60-80 on any given night.

The server will not be wiped or trolled into being shut down. P1999 Blue was like this when it first started, it's not the server peeps, it's classic. Classic is boring and for a crowd of hardcore players that know how to maximize their characters quickly, other than starting multiple alts, there is nothing to do but to eventually quit.

Unless another incarnation of VZTZ pops up, eventually the large crowd of people who quit will come back and play Kunark when it's released. Until then, expect the population to stay as is or continue to dwindle as people try out Diablo 3, GW2, and all the other new games that come out. Classic EQ cannot stand on it's own, regardless of the ruleset, it's boring.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by hijinks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only thing at this point that will rejuvenate the server is Kunark. Nothing less. Nothing more.

Between now and Kunark many people who play will step away, and new players who are curious will come check it out. I expect pop to steady out between 60-80 on any given night.

The server will not be wiped or trolled into being shut down. P1999 Blue was like this when it first started, it's not the server peeps, it's classic. Classic is boring and for a crowd of hardcore players that know how to maximize their characters quickly, other than starting multiple alts, there is nothing to do but to eventually quit.

Unless another incarnation of VZTZ pops up, eventually the large crowd of people who quit will come back and play Kunark when it's released. Until then, expect the population to stay as is or continue to dwindle as people try out Diablo 3, GW2, and all the other new games that come out. Classic EQ cannot stand on it's own, regardless of the ruleset, it's boring.

A well written post by someone I clash with so often. A+

[jdklaw]

ya thats why Heartbrand has 3 known lvl 50s and just started a rogue, the only option is to get a lvl 50 of every class in anticipation of Kunark

[heartbrand]

Have literally not logged in to play for more than 10 minutes in two weeks. Absolutely swamped with work / real life, + nothing to do in game.

[HarrisonStillPosting]

Originally Posted by Mornin3.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Server obvious failure. Population will never recover without massive xp bonus and yellow text. All you faggots that think otherwise are still stuck in denial.

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Griefed off of a pvp server by rejects from blue.

[Mornin3.0]

Originally Posted by HarrisonStillPosting [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Griefed off of a pvp server by server admins.

fixed.

[mostbitter]

Originally Posted by hijinks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only thing at this point that will rejuvenate the server is Velious. Nothing less. Nothing more.

Between now and Velious many people who play will step away, and new players who are curious will come check it out. I expect pop to steady out between 60-80 on any given night.

The server will not be wiped or trolled into being shut down. P1999 Blue was like this when it first started, it's not the server peeps, it's classic. Classic is boring and for a crowd of hardcore players that know how to maximize their characters quickly, other than starting multiple alts, there is nothing to do but to eventually quit.

Unless another incarnation of VZTZ pops up, eventually the large crowd of people who quit will come back and play Velious when it's released. Until then, expect the population to stay as is or continue to dwindle as people try out Diablo 3, GW2, and all the other new games that come out. Classic EQ cannot stand on it's own, regardless of the ruleset, it's boring.

Originally Posted by hijinks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only thing at this point that will rejuvenate the server is Luclin. Nothing less. Nothing more.

Between now and Luclin many people who play will step away, and new players who are curious will come check it out. I expect pop to steady out between 60-80 on any given night.

The server will not be wiped or trolled into being shut down. P1999 Blue was like this when it first started, it's not the server peeps, it's classic. Classic is boring and for a crowd of hardcore players that know how to maximize their characters quickly, other than starting multiple alts, there is nothing to do but to eventually quit.

Unless another incarnation of VZTZ pops up, eventually the large crowd of people who quit will come back and play Luclin when it's released. Until then, expect the population to stay as is or continue to dwindle as people try out Diablo 3, GW2, and all the other new games that come out. Classic EQ cannot stand on it's own, regardless of the ruleset, it's boring.

Here buddy you can come back and grab these nuggets once your giant group of hand holding friends finish farming kunark on a low pop server that releases content before fixing interest issues. Hopefully you'll realize content isn't what breeds interest in PVP players. Maybe try fighting someone, you might enjoy it.

[compulsion]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except people haven't been making quit posts for the last five months because orcs don't have pink skin, they have however, been making quit posts because the EXP was too slow for an emulated PVP server with a prime time pop of ~55-60.

There will always be someone crying on forums for attention, which is the entire reason for a "quit post". How about your buddy IronLion? Posts 1 million times. Deletes toon like a 4 year old breaking his transformer. Posts 1 million more doom and gloom rants. Begs admins to reinstate toon, then cries that someone isn't there to undo his stupidity. And he couldn't even make 40.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ad.php?t=64533

Most players voted for a smaller XP buff than we actually got, and since XP buff did nothing to increase population, it is only logical to accept that slow xp was not a root cause for people leaving. It also follows that any proposal which does not, after implementation, slow or counter the momentum of the server towards lower population is also not addressing a root cause.

If you really had any idea what you were talking about, you wouldn't need to skew/exaggerate the the population numbers. Population is regularly high 70s to low 80s at prime time, not 55-60. Less than 1 month ago it was 100-115 when we got a temporary boost from the last cure-all solution.

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

bro this stuff came after the majority of players already quit. i mean for god's sake you got poeple playing sailor moon online.

When people whine and cry for a change, get the change, and then just find something new to whine and cry about, it is because they just like to whine and cry. It's called acting out, it's an emotional response, and has nothing to do with any reasonable cause. You bitch all the time and you haven't even hit a hell level yet. I'm sure someone who can't handle 2.5 hr levels has some really valuable insight into why XP is too slow.

Personally, I am enjoying the 2500+ online and no level restriction, open world PvP that Tera offers. I spend more time thinking about making sure my guild wins its war than the issue that 2 of the 7 race choices are styled after anime.

Originally Posted by hijinks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only thing at this point that will rejuvenate the server is Kunark. Nothing less. Nothing more... Classic EQ cannot stand on it's own, regardless of the ruleset, it's boring.

I used to agree. Kunark made EQ a much, much more interesting game and it would give the people who can't handle dungeon leveling some viable outdoor zones. But as far as PvP goes, the thought of 100 people spread out over 2 continents is pretty depressing. I think there is a good chance that those of us who were red on live just expect a more competitive and dynamic environment than an emu server may ever be able to reproduce. As I said in my last post, the staff has done their reasonable best to provide us with a quality EQ replice, but they can't undo the changes that time has made to player demographics.