ip exemptions no longer exist

[Harazzer]

Its been 60 days since i posted my request for an exemption. My roommate has to use his cell as a 2nd IP so we can play at the same time.

[colleekitty]

FYI Amelinda posted this about a week ago in the two-boxing thread. I bet there is large number of exemptions to go through, but it will happen soonish.

PS: To the people worried about ip exemptions, it's coming. real life & other stuff has gotten in the way. also computer problems got in the way.

just please be patient and do not pm me about them.

*EDIT*
Guess that was over 5 weeks ago, my bad =/

[Slave]

Originally Posted by colleekitty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

FYI Amelinda posted this about a week ago in the two-boxing thread. I bet there is large number of exemptions to go through, but it will happen soonish.

That was actually over 5 weeks ago.

[colleekitty]

Originally Posted by Slave [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That was actually over 5 weeks ago.

lol what month is this again? Fail reading skills on my part.

Well it sounds like she needs assistance or somethings not right.

[DoucLangur]

Originally Posted by Tr0llb0rn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Now if only they'd stop the selling of accounts/tradeing of accounts. Want a lvl 50 rogue? level one up, should not be allowed to buy one for 5k or wtf they go for.

this!

Originally Posted by Scavrefamn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll never understand why two-boxing scum comes to this server.

Because you have no advantage doing stuff where it is allowed. Only by being a stupid c*nt breaking the rules while the majority abides by them can you get an unfair advantage on pixels. Pathetic, but that is how cheaters are.

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Slozem

[Weekapaug]

My gf and I got our exemption two years ago in fairly short order....about a week I think. We did not really play until we got it.

Last summer I reactivated my 4 daoc accounts and she started her own under the 2 week trial deal. She took to rvr like a fish to water, didn't mind boxing for pve (levelling in that game is mind numbing and is just something you do for rvr...and it goes much better if you box main, alts, and bots together I have found) , which was a first for her. When the two weeks were up, we were happily ready to subscribe all 5 accounts, except mythic, with the 300 player pop that game has at peak, had put a block on that only lets one account to be subscribed to per day from the same IP, ostensibly to fix a problem they had with credit card fraud they'd had or something. We had multiple toons set up to level together, free level timers to deal with, and this was all in the 40s when those things mattered. It was going to take a week to get back on track. Brilliant fix. We found something else to play and have never touched daoc since, much less ever subscribed.

I spent a decade in the post production side of the motion picture and tv industries, and honestly, this is really why techhie people aren't left in charge of major design decisions and things that directly affect the consumer. They have a tendency to fix broken arms by cutting the arm off...whatever is easiest for them rather than what works best for regular people. Not giving exemptions at all, or the net effect of that if people are waiting months, is arguably not the best fix for people boxing.

The devs and staff here have done a wonderful job and do the best they can with what they have to work with, and I'm sure they do it out of pure love of the project. And I'm sure there are good reasons for the delays. None of this is a slam on them. But it's silly to suggest that not giving exemptions in timely fashion doesn't affect weather or not people play. I can tell you first hand that it does.

If right now was 2 years ago, I have zero doubt that we would have headed to eqmac to play probably the 2nd day we were waiting for our exemption. When you have time to play together, you want to play. Not "make due." People play games for fun, not because they have to....Throw up roadblocks to the fun then don't be surprised when people find other options rather quickly.

[azxten]

Originally Posted by Weekapaug [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

whatever is easiest for them rather than what works best for regular people

I have mentioned this many times to the devs. That customer support is absolutely horrible here and is the primary reason that the population suffers. The response is always, "We don't have to do this. We do this on our free time. Be grateful, etc." However, this still ignores that it is a problem that could be solved by expanding the staff to include specific positions that don't need to be trusted with a whole lot.

There could be 2 people brought onto staff who do NOTHING but IP exemptions following a specific script created by Rogean/Nilbog with auditing procedures.

It's really the same reason most small businesses fail. The owner/creator refuses to relinquish control over some aspects of the business so that they can make time for growth. They can't stop working IN the business instead of ON the business and that is what has happened with P99.

I wish P99 had a streamlined method for working on the code base but this won't happen because the source code is so closely guarded. When asking about assisting with the code the response is usually to download EQemu code and then fork it to include your changes. However, there is no official outline on how to submit code changes, bug lists, etc.

I wish P99 allowed more guides who handled IP exemptions, community interaction, etc. People who have very little abusable powers but significantly lighten the load on higher tier staff members so they can focus on more important issues. It is always incredibly disheartening to hear "I WOULD be making Velious if I didn't have to deal with all the crying from raid guild disputes!" or whatever. Developers shouldn't be dealing with raid disputes in the first place so it's a moot point.

Basically, it sucks that there are literally hundreds of applicants in the guide section on these forums and still only a grand total of like 4-5 people on staff here while it takes months to get something as simple as an IP exemption.

As always, I'm grateful for the project but in my opinion it would benefit significantly from allowing more community participation on the management side of things. Currently I view P99 as very much in a dying state rather than thriving. The economy has crashed, playerbase is shrinking, and it now takes longer to get basic services like IP exemptions than it did years ago.

[Slave]

There are two amazingly insightful posts above mine; everyone do yourselves a big favor and peruse them carefully. Then ask yourselves, can we not do better? This is an amazing game, easily one of the best ever made. It should be overflowing with players right now, but somehow isn't, largely for the reasons outlined above.

[Hitchens]

There probably should be more people on the management side, but I can understand their reluctance to bring more people on board. It's hard to really vet people when your contact with them is solely through the Internet and the Internet is full of unstable weirdos.

[azxten]

Originally Posted by Hitchens [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's hard to really vet people when your contact with them is solely through the Internet and the Internet is full of unstable weirdos.

This is why you use them for positions that can't do any real damage, like IP exemptions. Sure, some boxers might get IP exemptions faster but that's why you have auditing. Track who granted the IP exemptions and then when you're banning boxers you occasionally check how many bans were associated with specific IP exemption granters. Establish an average across all the people in the position and remove people who are higher than the average.