What do you think about PL'ers?

[fishingme]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fair enough, there's still Splitpaw, Najena, Befallen, Cazic, Upper Guk, Runnyeye (as mentioned)... and for the adventurous, Permafrost. Most of them except for Perma are reasonably close to a druid ring, so entirely accessible [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Splitpaw, it's pretty damn amazing there. Najena, not the greatest the mobs are too split up, it's only good for a few levels, and mob level has a really weird variance to it, Befallen isn't terrible, but still far far far below unrest with all the lockdoors, a surprisingly small amount of mobs, Cazic- too many casters iirc, level change in mobs is too much. Upperguk, super low exp gain from there, no sow. Runnyeye, I never really did too much there but after all ways getting lost in there I called it quits.


See the problem with perma, it's too big, mobs are too far apart.

If there was one place in kunark (from what I know of) that I would powerlevel in I would do sarnak fortress, however the mobs there hit like a truck and the respawn time will get you unless you're on your guard.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fair enough, there's still Splitpaw, Najena, Befallen, Cazic, Upper Guk, Runnyeye (as mentioned)... and for the adventurous, Permafrost. Most of them except for Perma are reasonably close to a druid ring, so entirely accessible [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

splitpaw is a clusterfuck, shit aggroes through the wall, pathing is bad, and a fair amount of healers.

najena is honestly too low for the majority of PLers. With a 60 assist PL you can skip to a 30ish zone almost immediately and get max xp for pl'ee if you're using any kind of porcupining or porc / feigning.

CT has like 3000 clerics. There's a reason no one fucking goes there.

Uguk isn't bad, ZEM is great but if you want to maintain max xp per kill you'll transition to a higher zone. Also, lolshamanmobs.

RE is a lowbie zone, similar problems to splitpaw with pathing / healers.

Permafrost also has far, far too many clerics and the zone doesn't lend itself well to being traveled to for non firepot bound characters.

Unfortunately the things that make good PL zones also make good leveling zones. Mobs are piss easy, grouped densely in similar ranges with no healers, and high ZEMs.

kurns, befallen, lguk, com, solb (certain areas, avoiding the shm, though healers are less of an issue with a feign assist pL'er, mind, i speak mostly from a ds pl strat) are some of my personal favorites. I try to stick to the upper zones in old world which further cuts down places I can PL, depending on who I have and what i'm PLing. If it's a 50s PL and I have a monk assist and efreeti is camped, often I can PL in HS West, but yeah, takes a bit more work than efreeti.

[fishingme]

Originally Posted by HeallunRumblebelly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

splitpaw is a clusterfuck, shit aggroes through the wall, pathing is bad, and a fair amount of healers.

najena is honestly too low for the majority of PLers. With a 60 assist PL you can skip to a 30ish zone almost immediately and get max xp for pl'ee if you're using any kind of porcupining or porc / feigning.

CT has like 3000 clerics. There's a reason no one fucking goes there.

Uguk isn't bad, ZEM is great but if you want to maintain max xp per kill you'll transition to a higher zone. Also, lolshamanmobs.

RE is a lowbie zone, similar problems to splitpaw with pathing / healers.

Permafrost also has far, far too many clerics and the zone doesn't lend itself well to being traveled to for non firepot bound characters.

Unfortunately the things that make good PL zones also make good leveling zones. Mobs are piss easy, grouped densely in similar ranges with no healers, and high ZEMs.

kurns, befallen, lguk, com, solb (certain areas, avoiding the shm, though healers are less of an issue with a feign assist pL'er, mind, i speak mostly from a ds pl strat) are some of my personal favorites. I try to stick to the upper zones in old world which further cuts down places I can PL, depending on who I have and what i'm PLing. If it's a 50s PL and I have a monk assist and efreeti is camped, often I can PL in HS West, but yeah, takes a bit more work than efreeti.

With splitpaw I don't suggest ever going past the double doors for pling (depending on the class that is pling you of course) I had all ways kept it 23-28(or 29 can't remember) before heading some place else. But holy smokes split paw is grand xp, 23-28 in a matter of 2-3hours.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by fishingme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The problem with kunark Pling over old world Pling is that kunark mobs have more HP and hit a lot harder and the xp isn't better, it's actually worse.

Bigger issue for me (as a cleric) is that manastone doesn't work in kunark. I'd gladly PL all goddamn day 30-50 in COM, but alas, only the donals works there, no stone. Stone helps for midfight celestials, roots, etc. Whereas if i take it to efreeti with a monk assist or something I'm guaranteed 0 downtime, and can pull :3

[fishingme]

Originally Posted by HeallunRumblebelly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bigger issue for me (as a cleric) is that manastone doesn't work in kunark. I'd gladly PL all goddamn day 30-50 in COM, but alas, only the donals works there, no stone. Stone helps for midfight celestials, roots, etc. Whereas if i take it to efreeti with a monk assist or something I'm guaranteed 0 downtime, and can pull :3

Definitely true didn't even think of gear restrictions such as manastone. But then again not everyone has one or is capable of having one yet so I suppose i didn't include it for that reason. CoM in my opinion is the one exception to the kunark hp/mob hitting like a truck. for powerlevelers and whomever they're powerleveling, it's definitely a fantastic spot at 40 until the beginning mobs hit lightblue. Funny enough the golems all ways gave sweet xp compared to the undead mobs there (I'm referencing the first 3 sections before arena) However when golems become lightblue I believe stables still had the majority of dark blues.

[Tecmos Deception]

You mean dalnir, a cramped maze of a dungeon with a teleporter exit, that is full of clerics and shadowknights and necromancers, isn't a better place to PL than unrest?! NO WAY!!!

[fishingme]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You mean dalnir, a cramped maze of a dungeon with a teleporter exit, that is full of clerics and shadowknights and necromancers, isn't a better place to PL than unrest?! NO WAY!!!

cool down on the sarcasm.

[Tecmos Deception]

It's annoying when a PL session impacts your normal xp group's grind, yes. But it's part of the game, just like a 60 soloing frenzy even though you've got a group of 35-40s would like to do it.

[Bubbles]

Simply put: Unrest and Mistmoore are the desired zones because they range from level 1-30 and mobs dont heal, very,very few casters, and in the case of unrest, dont even run so thorns can completely kill off all the mobs.

That's why those are the primest zones for brainless powerlevelling, and that won't change. You can sub in Eastkarana or Najena or Lavastorm or whatever but you arent going to be able to grind PL to 30 in one location like you can in unrest/mistmoore.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Bubbles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Simply put: Unrest and Mistmoore are the desired zones because they range from level 1-30 and mobs dont heal, very,very few casters, and in the case of unrest, dont even run so thorns can completely kill off all the mobs.

That's why those are the primest zones for brainless powerlevelling, and that won't change. You can sub in Eastkarana or Najena or Lavastorm or whatever but you arent going to be able to grind PL to 30 in one location like you can in unrest/mistmoore.

Mistmoore is loaded with casters so I'm not sure where you got that. But sure, Unrest and Mistmoore are loved by PLers for the same reason that groups love them: high zems and dense mobs. So what? Suck it up and get 10% less XP rather than ruining the day of the groups that are XPing there.

Also the whole 'kunark mobs hit harder' just isn't true on 1999, in my experience every mob <= 50 hits for f(level) which doesn't depend on zone. The most important thing is ZEM.