Building my first PC

[Bushido]

i find http://www.cpubenchmark.net/ very useful when finding a video card or processor to get the most bang for the buck.

[Nuncio]

Originally Posted by Thulack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But it is capable of doing everything i want without lagging. That is all i need and all most people need. You dont have to spend more then 500 dollars building a computer unless you do graphic design as a living.

There is so much wrong with this post, I don't have the energy to go into it.
The only correct part: "But it is capable of doing everything i want without lagging."

Which, of course, is totally subjective and irrelevant to the discussion.

Glad you are happy with your build, though.

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by Nuncio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is so much wrong with this post, I don't have the energy to go into it.
The only correct part: "But it is capable of doing everything i want without lagging."

Which, of course, is totally subjective and irrelevant to the discussion.

Glad you are happy with your build, though.

I mean feel free to tell me whats wrong with a quad core pc 8gb ram with 1gb ddr5 video card for under 300 dollars?

Tell me things that you would really need more then that to do? Sure saying i spent 1k on a 6core 16gb ram monster pc is nice but really what would anyone ever use something like that for?

[theaetatus]

Also, get it without Windows if you can and stick a cracked version on there. You can spend the $99 saved on hardware.

[Nuncio]

Originally Posted by Thulack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean feel free to tell me whats wrong with a quad core pc 8gb ram with 1gb ddr5 video card for under 300 dollars?

Tell me things that you would really need more then that to do? Sure saying i spent 1k on a 6core 16gb ram monster pc is nice but really what would anyone ever use something like that for?

Theres nothing wrong with it.
It works for you.
That's cool.

This guy is going for a little more.

What I'm saying is that you being happy with your computer does not mean that other people would be happy with your computer.

[Knuckle]

Originally Posted by Nuncio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This isn't a 'serious' gaming machine. He doesn't need a 200 dollar mobo. He also shouldn't be buying foxconn or similar though, which is why I posted the asrock one, which is really quite good.


I covered mobo, and agree with CPU.

Not in the upper midrange, such as this 7770.

I like corsair too, but mushkin is fine, as is PNY.

His rig does not require more than 500 watts from a good PSU. The 7770 is fairly low power pull. Hes got two sticks of ram, one HD and one CD. The lower end thermaltakes are, quite simply, junk. As I said, Antec or Corsair in the 450-750 range.

I really doubt he can afford and SSD with the equipemnt hes already listed, so be realistic.

Stock cooler on i5 at stock speeds is completely adequate, no water cooling or aftermarket required, ever.

Watercooling without extreme overclocking is a waste of money

Thanks for proving my point (he doesnt need watercooling. He's got a midrange card with a midrange cpu, OCing any one thing wont make much of a difference. Get of the WCing kick for him.)

There we go, kinda. Again, intel stock coolers are more than adequate.

Notice he didnt list a monitor in his cart? Prolly cause he's not going to buy one because he already has one.
Yep.




OK.

In regards to the mobo, yes Asus motherboards can easily run $200 dollars but you don't have to buy the most expensive model, mine personally only cost $170 dollars, and it held up to anything I threw at it, untill it was struck by lightning via ethernet port.

Why do you think i recommended the thermaltake tough series 700w? You are picking apart shit that doesn't need to be picked apart. You are making assumptions on what his budget is by what he picked out, however in his post he asked for criticism and I provided it, he did not say I need to build the cheapest gaming rig possible, did he?

No, you are attempting to make an ass out of you and me.

I threw the watercooling bit in there because it's something every person building a rig has at least heard of, so I gave some real feedback on the pros and cons.

Obviously he already has a monitor, but a guy asking for advice on all his computer parts might find it beneficial to understand the benefits of a good brand to purchase and why its beneficial to gaming.

You 'doubt' he can afford a solid state drive. Good for you, luckily he didn't mention price so I pointed out the obvious fact that solid state drives are MUCH better.

Picking apart my valid advice is fucking hilarious when you failed to even read through it properly, such as the thermaltake PSU bit and assuming piffen is broke because hes black. I'd suggest saving your critiques for someone who gives a shit.


Here's one more thought, the rig i recommend is more future proof, oh all he needs is 500 watts? thats terrific because you want more power than you need when it comes to a PSU so you don't stress the PSU or any components on it. And if he goes to a power hungry GPU in a few years to handle a new game coming out he will be glad to know it can handle it.



"This isn't a 'serious' gaming machine. He doesn't need a 200 dollar mobo
I really doubt he can afford and SSD with the equipemnt hes already listed, so be realistic."

What I'm saying is that you being happy with your computer does not mean that other people would be happy with your computer.
What I'm saying is that you being happy with your computer does not mean that other people would be happy with your computer.
What I'm saying is that you being happy with your computer does not mean that other people would be happy with your computer.

foot in mouth you fucking mongoloid.

[Knuckle]

Originally Posted by Piff [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

thanks!



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Thanks for all the help knuckle - no troll. i've got a nice 23 inch asus monitor myself.



Yeah that's what i'm really focused on. it will definitely be kept under $900. I'm building this rig with the intention that when i do find a game that needs more computing power, i'll be able to make the correct adjustments to my machine at that time.

Now for a new question before i show you all my updated list: If the mobo says it's only supported by a cpu with integrated graphics - what does this mean exactly. I'm obviously not going to invest in integrated graphics, but does this mean that i have to find a cpu with integrated graphics?

Alright here's the new list.. the case appears to have enough room and plenty of expansion, the SSD is only 120 but with the backup 500g WD blue i should be fine if it's only the stuff vital to the operating system and technical stuff not personal files. thoughts?

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list is good, bump that PSU to a 650w antec/thermaltake/corsair model, make sure its at least 4 1/2 eggs.

[Nuncio]

Originally Posted by Knuckle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In regards to the mobo, yes Asus motherboards can easily run $200 dollars but you don't have to buy the most expensive model, mine personally only cost $170 dollars, and it held up to anything I threw at it, untill it was struck by lightning via ethernet port.

Why do you think i recommended the thermaltake tough series 700w? You are picking apart shit that doesn't need to be picked apart. You are making assumptions on what his budget is by what he picked out, however in his post he asked for criticism and I provided it, he did not say I need to build the cheapest gaming rig possible, did he?

No, you are attempting to make an ass out of you and me.

I threw the watercooling bit in there because it's something every person building a rig has at least heard of, so I gave some real feedback on the pros and cons.

Obviously he already has a monitor, but a guy asking for advice on all his computer parts might find it beneficial to understand the benefits of a good brand to purchase and why its beneficial to gaming.

You 'doubt' he can afford a solid state drive. Good for you, luckily he didn't mention price so I pointed out the obvious fact that solid state drives are MUCH better.

Picking apart my valid advice is fucking hilarious when you failed to even read through it properly, such as the thermaltake PSU bit and assuming piffen is broke because hes black. I'd suggest saving your critiques for someone who gives a shit.


Here's one more thought, the rig i recommend is more future proof, oh all he needs is 500 watts? thats terrific because you want more power than you need when it comes to a PSU so you don't stress the PSU or any components on it. And if he goes to a power hungry GPU in a few years to handle a new game coming out he will be glad to know it can handle it.



"This isn't a 'serious' gaming machine. He doesn't need a 200 dollar mobo
I really doubt he can afford and SSD with the equipemnt hes already listed, so be realistic."

What I'm saying is that you being happy with your computer does not mean that other people would be happy with your computer.
What I'm saying is that you being happy with your computer does not mean that other people would be happy with your computer.
What I'm saying is that you being happy with your computer does not mean that other people would be happy with your computer.

foot in mouth you fucking mongoloid.

Don't be an idiot.

The reason he picked those items in the first place gives a very clear indication of his budget.

My recommendations added less than 100 dollars to the total.

No one wants to read the wall of text you posted.

He obviously didnt need a bunch of fucking info about watercooling and monitors.

Secondly, he does not need a 650 watt PSU for that machine. All he needs, honestly, is about 450 watts with good amperage.

Maybe you aren't sure how electricity works, and thats cool, not everyone is.

His total draw on that machine, with peripherals, is less than 400 watts.

The thermaltake you are talking about (650 watt) is over a hundred bucks, yet has less amperage on it's single 12v rail than the Antec does across its 3 separate 12v rails by about 40%. (And the Antec costs less.)

Not sure what you're trying to point out with this stupidity:

What I'm saying is that you being happy with your computer does not mean that other people would be happy with your computer.
What I'm saying is that you being happy with your computer does not mean that other people would be happy with your computer.
What I'm saying is that you being happy with your computer does not mean that other people would be happy with your computer.

foot in mouth you fucking mongoloid.

But whatever.

And, glad you agree with the changes he's made.

(By the way, Asrock is, or at least was, a subsidiary or child company of Asus.)

[Poundruss]

Originally Posted by Knuckle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

list is good, bump that PSU to a 650w antec/thermaltake/corsair model, make sure its at least 4 1/2 eggs.

you don't really know what you're talking about.

650w for that setup? he'd be fine with 450w.

as for the OP, do you live next to a microcenter?

if so, you can get a great deal on an i5 3570k (even an i5 2500k if you want to go a generation less).

to be honest, if i were you, i'd try to min/max what i could with my budget. i'd drop the SSD and use that money to bump up your video card and processor a bit. the only thing an SSD is going to effect is your windows and game boot time. it has no additional performance increase. it is an amazing piece to have to any computer, but if i were on a budget, i'd go for a bit more power on the GPU/CPU.

this, of course, all depends on the games you are going to be playing. if you're not going to be playing any type of high-end demanding game then stick with the SSD as that power is perfectly fine for lower to mid games.

[EvilMallet]

i do kind of agree with upping the PSU to 650, that gives the duder some breathing room if he upgrades his video card down the line.