Bat Wings?

[Cogwell]

As a druid, I am 100% positive that lady in the hut always sells Bat Wings in east Commons in classic. I know this, because I remember coming there and restock batwings before Kunark expansion came out. Then after Kunark, I didn't have to worry about restocking when I hit 51 because of no reagent Levitation spell at that level..

The non-reagent lev spell was a Luclin spell, so that logic seems pretty sketchy to me already.

[Kirdan]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If I were a dev, I'd be curious to know which players purchased an inordinate amount of batwings shortly before this patch. Not accusing anyone of anything, I'd just curiously look at the database. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A lot of us did because the patch notes were posted before the server went down.

As for whether or not they should be sold, I can only say with certainty that I frequently bought them off the merchant in EC pre-Luclin in 2001.

[astarothel]

Originally Posted by Kiwaukee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm guessing it literally took the code worker 10 seconds to find the mob in EC and remove bat wings from her item set.

I know of about ten Bat Wings vendors in FP/Commons area alone that existed pre patch, but yea, removing items from a vendor list is relatively easy.

[Xenephex]

Originally Posted by Kirdan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A lot of us did because the patch notes were posted before the server went down.

Lovely.

At this point the only thing we know for sure is that they were there pre-kunark (according to the link to the Clerics board in an earlier post, probably supported by the link to the EQ traders archive). Other than that what we have is a wide variety of opinions.

I am not going to fault the devs for any decision they make; I do greatly appreciate all the work they put in, but... once we know for certain that something existed at least pre-kunark, doesn't the onus fall on someone else to conclusively demonstrate that they were added to the game sometime between release and that point?

[nilbog]

There were many merchants prior to the patch that sold bat wings. Many.

I'm not a bat wing aficionado, and it was easy as 1 click to get rid of all of them.

If they should exist on vendors, I just need a list of which ones, and I will fix them for next patch.

[Reiker]

Originally Posted by Dalmi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As a druid, I am 100% positive that lady in the hut always sells Bat Wings in east Commons in classic. I know this, because I remember coming there and restock batwings before Kunark expansion came out. Then after Kunark, I didn't have to worry about restocking when I hit 51 because of no reagent Levitation spell at that level.

Yeah. Everyone knew you could get batwings from the EC hut in classic.

[oldhead]

I kinda like having to buy regents from players... I also play a druid.

Nothing wrong with noobers having more than bone chips to sell.
plus batwings arnt that high in demand.

I say leave em out classic or not.

then again... I dont want a 100% classic server

[Wildir]

I am 100 percent sure that they were sold in EC, I had a druid friend that would port to wc and we would run into ec and buy them in the inn right next to zone, it also had fish scales and other reagents that were needed, it is the only place I know of in classic that had them, but 100 percent sure they were there, I started in march of 1999, and I would have been around level 30 to 40 in this time range. dont have a date, but that would still have been in 1999 for sure.

Wildir

[BuzWeaver]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's evidence as far back as 1/24/2000 (see last post at the bottom):

http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/arch...hp/t-6181.html

Considering EQ was released in March 99, it depends on what you consider "classic" and how far along in the timeline we are.

JBoots nerf happened on Oct 13, 1999 so we know we're at least to that point:

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/hist...ches-1999.html

Plane of Sky released Jan 2000, so we're not quite there yet:

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/history/patches.html

From EQTraders: Merchant Katha Firespinner to my knowledge was the only merchant I knew of that sold Batwings and Fish Scales (back in the day).

What's key about this merchant, at least to Druids was Katha sold Bat Wings so people could raise their faction by doing this quest Bat Wings.

Some druids needed to raise their faction (Keepers of The Art) for our Epic:
- Talk to Farios Elianos in Felwithe south. He can be found in the Library that is behind a door in the shop. If he dont respond to you then your faction with Keepers of the Art is too low. You can build up faction fast with the batwing-quest in Felwithe south. If Farios talks to you, give him the pot and you receive a grocery list. He will give you the receipt for the bowl if you do a job for him. Source

I can only base this on my personal experience. Epics as everyone knows came out with Kunark. Its not mentioned in the Epic thread, as most Druids understood that Katha sold unlimited Bat Wings because we needed them for Lev and we needed Fish Scales for EB, particularly when we were in Kedge doing part of our Epic.

I suppose its fair to say that this was one of those 'understood' aspects of the game that by its nature no one would have anticipated having to prove 11 years later, LOL. This is as substantive of 'proof' that I can provide outside of just my personal credibility as an Old School Druid.

[eqdruid76]

Bat wings were always for sale in unlimited quantities on the female erudite vendr in EC at the inn closest to the WC zone line.