Just a few balance ideas

[Nirgon]

It feels way more classic than before is the thing.

This issue, before the change, was a glaring point for me much like current resists. It needed at least a solid push to make it at least "more classic like" and it got one. We can of course revisit and perfect with implementing players getting pushed by other player damage, potentially not the hardest change to make.

Resists need the same, just a quick and firm push to make them closer to classic until more efforts can be devoted to them.

Or, what Nilbog suggested to me could happen, which would be awesome.

[Graahle]

Originally Posted by Tomatoking [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ill admit spell resists make resist gear not as effective and wizards need a tone down but in the classic / kunark / velious era of live they were gods.

i was able to gate from nizzar as a 52 cleric several times no problem and bronkus + other monks with no interrupts

i was happy about this but when i played huggies i never interrupted shit and i got smoked like a nug of purp at northwest's house

You sip purp/lean/Texas oil/etc.

Confirmed not from Houston.

[Nizzarr]

Wizards in classic were shit -- We're talking about a small timeframe here 1999-first quarter of 2000. Ice comet would be commonly fully resisted at 75 cold resist. Conflag was similar with ~75 getting real good partials or completely resist it.

Wizards got better in kunark/velious, draughts were still easily resisted but they got access to lures which landed all the time and made them tough opponents.

You guys got a twisted memories of getting nuked, probably because you were playing on rz and had all your gear bagged.

[AffEcT]

So you want the "classic" PvP resist i take it?

[Nizzarr]

Originally Posted by AffEcT [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you want the "classic" PvP resist i take it?

Sure do. You should also, necros were god back then. Theyre shit with this current resist system. The wizards were alright, the druids were only stacking winged death/drifting on people, they'd still use nukes on people 8 levels lower and thatd work. Mages werent that good, but they had unresistable malo and could land spells after that.

All the melees were much better than they are right now.

I'd also take the classic level resist adjustement. If you were lower level, you couldnt land shit on people 4+ level higher. Levels were king, then gear.

Talking about resists seems like beating a dead horse though. This will probably never change.

[Akim]

Originally Posted by Nizzarr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wizards in classic were shit -- We're talking about a small timeframe here 1999-first quarter of 2000. Ice comet would be commonly fully resisted at 75 cold resist. Conflag was similar with ~75 getting real good partials or completely resist it.

Wizards got better in kunark/velious, draughts were still easily resisted but they got access to lures which landed all the time and made them tough opponents.

You guys got a twisted memories of getting nuked, probably because you were playing on rz and had all your gear bagged.

Need to change rules imo; one death = full loot and player deletion, bank is shared by all toons on account.

[Nizzarr]

Those classic resists made large scale pvp fights last forever, which by definition made the skilled players shine more. I dont see much skill in assist trains and having everybody(even clerics!) nuke someone dead because they didnt have 200+ in every resists.

Those t-staff procs/assist trains wouldnt be as deadly -- the reasons why everybody whine about the 12 seconds stuns is that everything lands for full and you die. If you had decent resists(~100 in everything) back then, youd probably survive an assist train with one druid healer healing you.

edit: im just derailing from the OP but w/e, dont care. this need to be said once in awhile

[Stasis01]

I don't get rooted much now that I'm like 170 MR unbuffed - but that shit hurt the population more than anything in classic IMO.

[Cwall 52.0]

Originally Posted by Stasis01 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't get rooted much now that I'm like 170 MR unbuffed - but that shit hurt the population more than anything in classic IMO.

wearing nothing but MR only gear so that you can resist roots MOST of the time sounds fucking awful to me

[runlvlzero]

Originally Posted by Cwall 52.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

wearing nothing but MR only gear so that you can resist roots MOST of the time sounds fucking awful to me

Grats on finally hitting level 52 noob.