Spells: Detrimental Spell Worn off messages

[Tallenn]

I distinctly remember "Your snare spell has worn off" messages in classic. It did not specify who it wore off of, so if you had more than one thing snared, it wasn't a lot of help.

As far as DoTs though, I'm not sure.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by XeldiablosX [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Problem is i clearly remember dot tick dmg during kunark as well as the removal of detrimental effects,

Agreed, that must have been filtered out in the images.

They were definitely in during PoP but could be filtered out. In fact everything could be filtered 20 different ways by the time PoP was out so screen-shots around this time are sadly not very helpful, not even when it comes to seeing what color the text is.

I'm not sure when all the customization was added to the UI (filtering, color changing, abbreviating, etc).
If somebody does know however, then we should only use screen-shots from before that date as evidence.

[Remfin]

Filtering and color changing* was in classic, although I dunno if they were in the UI, they were in and working in the .ini. SERVER-side filtering was early Velious. There was at least one abbreviation mode by late Kunark, but the whole separate window thing with multiple options was /hitsmode which was during Luclin.

*I don't think messages were as subdivided into categories though. Like the equivalent of "Other's Hits" was for PC, NPCs, and pets all rolled together.

[Itchybottom]

The missing worn off messages were probably due to misconfiguration of Hitsmode and the various window type changes they went through pre UIFiles

[mmiles8]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Agreed, that must have been filtered out in the images.

They were definitely in during PoP but could be filtered out. In fact everything could be filtered 20 different ways by the time PoP was out so screen-shots around this time are sadly not very helpful, not even when it comes to seeing what color the text is.

I'm not sure when all the customization was added to the UI (filtering, color changing, abbreviating, etc).
If somebody does know however, then we should only use screen-shots from before that date as evidence.

That would make sense. Actually I'm fairly certain you're right because I remember getting all hot and bothered over seeing Funeral Pyre's ticks.

As for the rest, I really don't remember if there was anything special turned off. I know in kunark and velious I didn't see my dot ticks while chant kiting on my bard. But the rest are the only milestones I can find in over 400 screenshots spanning 4 years, and finding something like spell worn off messages in one is a needle in a haystack.

[Haynar]

Having for detrimental spells, it say .... "Your %s spell has worn off." Is definitely doable.

So the question is dots. I think it was others were able to see your damage sometime around PoP or so. It was the crits that really got people going.

So I will probably go with being able to see your own dot damage. And a generic detrimental spell worn off message that goes to the person who cast the spell. And if your spell is overwritten, by someone elses spell, then you also get a worn off message.

Haynar

[Sidious]

Necro perspective here: I distinctly remember messages for dots, fear, root, screaming terror etc wearing off your hostile targets AND messages for buffs ending on your pet. Same message text, yellow I believe just like periodic dmg is now, it would tell me when my haste wore off a pet, fairly certain that if someone cast say resolution on the pet, I would be informed when that fell too.

I remember a period during kunark, perhaps 2-3 months in where SoE borked the detrimental worn off messages where a mob dying would give you the message that everything you had on it had expired. It was fixed back shortly after to only give these messages while the target was alive.

[Striiker]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Having for detrimental spells, it say .... "Your %s spell has worn off." Is definitely doable.

So the question is dots. I think it was others were able to see your damage sometime around PoP or so. It was the crits that really got people going.

So I will probably go with being able to see your own dot damage. And a generic detrimental spell worn off message that goes to the person who cast the spell. And if your spell is overwritten, by someone elses spell, then you also get a worn off message.

Haynar

Thank you Haynar! I believe you have correctly identified the messages which were present. I know that detrimental spells wearing off or being overwritten were displayed. Also, I recall that DOT damage ticks were also listed. The messages should go to the person who cast the spell in question. Regarding having others see DOT damage, I agree that this was added later.

[ElanoraBryght]

WOOOHOOOO~!!
Just logged in after patch and on first mobs of the day got "Your *spellname* spell has worn off." message

/bow - thank you! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[guineapig]

/applaud

Thanks Haynar!!

Much respect!