So how about that Zimmerman trial?

[Daldolma]

i like how racist people have dragged race into this case, then accused others of racism for not bending the facts of the case to their racially charged interpretation

[Barkingturtle]

Yeah, it's not an interesting case due to the racial element--although that's the type of sensationalism we media-consumers most appreciate and thus why we're even discussing it--it's an interesting case because it puts on display the untenable nature of "stand your ground" laws. As it stands right now it appears the perfect murder is facilitated by the state of Florida. That's great news for Dexter but bad news for anyone who doesn't want to get shot to death.

[Samoht]

gz not even using SYG...

[Daldolma]

honestly stand your ground is an overrated element of this case. it would be a very minor hurdle for gz to clear, given available evidence. all stand your ground states is that someone like gz has no obligation to retreat to safety before using deadly force in self defense, even if it would be possible. but as gz was pinned to the ground, the facts would support his inability to retreat anyway.

this is strictly a case of self defense. the reason it's garnering so much outrage, race aside, is that gz initiated the confrontation and there's no way to know who initiated physical violence. to some, it seems ridiculous that he can start a dispute, kill the other guy, and then we have to let him walk because we don't know who is responsible for violent escalation. but we don't, and assuming one reasonable explanation of events, gz merely questioned trayvon and then got pummeled and was forced to act in self defense. you can't convict someone of murder for that -- and since we can't disprove it, he walks

[Barkingturtle]

Look, I'm trying to stay involved in the conversation but if you're going to require I stay up-to-date on what's actually going on I'm gonna have to opt out. I think I've made that pretty clear, cocksucker.

[Samoht]

^ i LOLed

[Shaunte]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

oh please.

black racial intolerance is relatively new to the age of the earth. you know who white people were hating long before the rediscovery of the old continent? other fucking white people.

black people are fucking spoiled by modern racism. it gives them some sort of entitlement where they're allowed to get away with things that they'd never allow a white person to get away with (see: the N word).

but before that, white on white racial crimes were the norm. look at the irish. my people are STILL under british oppression, but you don't see me asking for hand outs or whining about it in every breath.

you trayvon sympathizers need to fuck off and quit using the race card. this shit wasn't about race. gz isn't even fucking white. gz killed a petty thief when he caught him casing houses and got attacked by him. you don't get to physically assault someone for occupying the same city street, so all of your "trayvon was defending himself" bullshit is just out the window.

sorry.

gz acquitted quicker than casey anthony. done.

People like HBB will never get it.

Irish are white, you can't be racist against whites. (In HBB's mind, only racism is against blacks.)

[TarukShmaruk]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i like how racist people have dragged race into this case, then accused others of racism for not bending the facts of the case to their racially charged interpretation

Pretty sure the race/bigot card was immediately played by the Martin supporters in this thread.

[Daldolma]

that's who i'm talking about...

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Look, I'm trying to stay involved in the conversation but if you're going to require I stay up-to-date on what's actually going on I'm gonna have to opt out. I think I've made that pretty clear, cocksucker.

i like your style