Traitors & Sellouts, Never Forget, Never Forgive *** UPDATES ***

[Retti_]

I was nihilum from early server until the dark days of sub 20 pop. I only acquired a a mistwalker and planar gear. I was one of the most active pvpers. Had a falling out after playing loz came back to server and was a part of the dentist revolution that eventually showed azrael crew its first kunark dragon but 85% of dentists couldnt stand lite with his teamspeak priority speaker status making bad calls and sky dkp cry babies. Dentists quit or joined nihilum.

I quit then came back with the heresy revolution which was crushed by t99 announcement.

Then I rejoined Azrael after bashing them throughout the entire timeline of forum (lite sucks but always gave him respect that hes good at babying and moving things along hes a nice guy).

Been talking to HB and HPT almost my entite stay in Azrael wishing I could just go rogue battle cleric but didnt want to be forced to solo or quit.

OG nihilum still my pals, so thats where I am.

Im a hyper immersed player like the majority here. Its just a game. Seeing all sides I can say each side blames the other side of the same shit, has ass hats and good helpful people. Team A Team B Team C who gives a fuck.

Play and have fun no need to get personal and blow everything out of proportion.

[heartbrand]

I think a lot of ppl would love for this to be a 400+ pop server where you could make fun pvp gank squads and shit, unfortunately the pop really caters to this being a 2 guild box effectively o well

[freez]

Originally Posted by Retti_ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Play and have fun no need to get personal and blow everything out of proportion.

so that's y u act like a fag and try to make drama


ok bruh

[Retti_]

Making fun.of u for casting pumice is not being a fag making drama or making rl attacks

Most of my arguments are responses

Just a few weeks ago I was like god parting the heavens for azrael

After I left I was spammed by almost every member telling me to come back

If I left nihilum and went back to azrael id be showered with pras and open arms

If I joined u guys on another server same shit

[NotKringe]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i don't see why past playtimes should be a factor at all in a new guild(two groups merging)

if that were the case, then i think we could make the case that dentists had been playing together far longer than azrael had, and we had accumulated more internal "dkp" than you guys had

at the end of the day dentists came into the merger with less dkp than all of you guys and there were still issues with it for some reason

This was the biggest issue. You didn't miss one raid, you missed like 3 weeks worth of shit at the height of which we were contesting at the time. You would login your warrior and sit somewhere else while LITE begged you to come join, and you continued to cry on the forums for like another entire month how your Sky DKP from Azrael wasn't being utilized to it's fullest and you felt shafted.

No one quit and ran to LoZ, we all quit when the server reset 3 times within 2 weeks and we then realized we couldn't beat the man who controlled the switch, coupled along with the fact I was tired of trying to make everyone a cohesive unit and get mobilized to fight, while the Sickpuppys/Sealers/Brainz crew remained in Seb farming their 10th and 11th Fungis while me and Colgate were out doing work with the rest of the newly formed crew.

HB had it right in his list, it was those exact people who would sit in Seb on their fully decked out 60s (2 mage epics at the time lol) while we are fighting 20vs 20 in KC or setting up before spawns to get a preemptive advantage over Nihilum. Shit was demoralizing to the rest of the guild, and if we did win they would mysteriously show up and want to utilize their (Sky DKP for a year) for anything we had just obtained.

[freez]

Originally Posted by Retti_ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Making fun.of u for casting pumice is not being a fag making drama or making rl attacks

Most of my arguments are responses

Just a few weeks ago I was like god parting the heavens for azrael

After I left I was spammed by almost every member telling me to come back

If I left nihilum and went back to azrael id be showered with pras and open arms

If I joined u guys on another server same shit

not sure what u ever brought to the guild besides being a snitch out lol


and yes pre kunark when I bought freez he had no strip or pillage.

so I either cast nullify or click pumice

pumice -1 sec cast time instant recast no mana vs loading a spell slot for it


hmmmm

[Slathar]

Okay so I'll bite for a second and stop trolling.

The bottom line with Red99 boils down to a few major key points:

First, the population is exceedingly small. This does not allow for a variety of guild choices, player style choices, or even friendships. I know for a fact that the way I conduct myself on this server would have disallowed me to be in any kind of guild on live. However, here I have a spot because I'm a fairly active player. Population problems cause people who wouldn't normally play together do just that; play together. That's where we get people who were formerly enemies under one tag in Nihilum.

Second, players on Red99 have the longest memories in the history of online roleplaying games. Any kind of insult, train, or pvp that occurred a year, two years ago, or even on a different server is held against any player or group of players to the detriment of everyone. This mainly impacts Azrael's side. Some examples of these beefs include Kringe & Friedchicken, Tunak & Heartbrand, and Elderan & logic. The players on Red99 are some of the most hardcore players and because of this their rivalries run deep. I get that. But it becomes harmful to the progress and to the server at large when so few players refuse to play with each other. Ultimately, tribalism, rival factions, whatever you want to call them are harmful to the server at large.

Third, there are no defined rules for this server. This server needs a set-in-stone rule set in place that does not bend. I understand Sirken does his best and is a volunteer. I wouldn't be a GM here if it was a paid position because the thought of dealing with every aspect of this community makes me want to hurl myself in front of a train. However, rules are necessary. More importantly, the enforcement of said rules is paramount to the success of the server. Some examples would be:
1) Train = 7 days first offense
2) Train = 30 days second offense
3) Train = 90 days / perma-ban third offense

I personally wouldn't join Nihilum nor would they even entertain the idea of having me. However, if someone wants to join them that does not make them a bad person nor change who they are necessarily. I like people in Nihilum and people in Nihilum like me. I don't care if people I'm friends with kill me or if I kill them, because it's a video game.

Remember this:

It's a fucking video game.

[Retti_]

Training should never ever ever result in ban punishment, EQ is too ez to train by accident.

Slathar good post good guy very scholarly

[big mouth chew]

good post

also

YOU THINK THIS IS A GAME?!??!!

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Slathar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Okay so I'll bite for a second and stop trolling.

The bottom line with Red99 boils down to a few major key points:

First, the population is exceedingly small. This does not allow for a variety of guild choices, player style choices, or even friendships. I know for a fact that the way I conduct myself on this server would have disallowed me to be in any kind of guild on live. However, here I have a spot because I'm a fairly active player. Population problems cause people who wouldn't normally play together do just that; play together. That's where we get people who were formerly enemies under one tag in Nihilum.

Second, players on Red99 have the longest memories in the history of online roleplaying games. Any kind of insult, train, or pvp that occurred a year, two years ago, or even on a different server is held against any player or group of players to the detriment of everyone. This mainly impacts Azrael's side. Some examples of these beefs include Kringe & Friedchicken, Tunak & Heartbrand, and Elderan & logic. The players on Red99 are some of the most hardcore players and because of this their rivalries run deep. I get that. But it becomes harmful to the progress and to the server at large when so few players refuse to play with each other. Ultimately, tribalism, rival factions, whatever you want to call them are harmful to the server at large.

Third, there are no defined rules for this server. This server needs a set-in-stone rule set in place that does not bend. I understand Sirken does his best and is a volunteer. I wouldn't be a GM here if it was a paid position because the thought of dealing with every aspect of this community makes me want to hurl myself in front of a train. However, rules are necessary. More importantly, the enforcement of said rules is paramount to the success of the server. Some examples would be:
1) Train = 7 days first offense
2) Train = 30 days second offense
3) Train = 90 days / perma-ban third offense

I personally wouldn't join Nihilum nor would they even entertain the idea of having me. However, if someone wants to join them that does not make them a bad person nor change who they are necessarily. I like people in Nihilum and people in Nihilum like me. I don't care if people I'm friends with kill me or if I kill them, because it's a video game.

Remember this:

It's a fucking video game.

true scholar, post shud be stickied