Upcoming change to class epics

[Ele]

Originally Posted by ergo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It sounds like the only people that want this change are casuals that play a few hrs a day a few times a week and not the people paying 8+ a day.

and the guys that own and operate the server, but what does that matter.

[ergo]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and the guys that own and operate the server, but what does that matter.

That's fine, but but stop calling Classic Everquest and call it 'their version.' stop pretending it is anything other than, 'everquest, how they want it to be played.'

[Ele]

Originally Posted by ergo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's fine, but but stop calling Classic Everquest and call it 'their version.' stop pretending it is anything other than, 'everquest, how they want it to be played.'

It has always been what they want, their interpretation of classic, and they have the final say.

If this is news to you, surprise.

[ergo]

Thats fine if that is how they are interpreting something, but not when they admit, straight up they have no foundation for it.

I just want a real reason, and not some bullshit. Is that too much ask? "cause we said so' is a valid reason, but a shit reason to do anything.

At least if they have a sound argument as to why the change, after YEARS of allowing it is needed, people can understand it and get behind it.

[Ele]

They have given their reasons. You simply disagree with them.

Also anything is subject to change here. You should have zero expection that when you wake up tomorrow your character will be here for you. Enjoy it minute to minute for what it is.

[Messie]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They have given their reasons. You simply disagree with them.

Also anything is subject to change here. You should have zero expection that when you wake up tomorrow your character be will be here for you. Enjoy it minute to minute for what it is.

The perfect post.

[ergo]

They have given their reasons. You simply disagree with them.

Stating that the investigation is inconclusive and deciding to do something anyway is a bad reason. I would hope, if they actually cared about making the game classic, they would wait for a COMPLETE investigation before making a drastic change that a minority at best wants.

That's fine, you are right they could wipe the server tomorrow and or shut down. That is their right. It is also my right to bitch and moan about a decision if I so choose, regardless of them ignoring it or not.

The game being free, them doing what they want is all fine, if you think that means we have zero reason to speak out about something we dont like, thats your opinion.

[Ele]

You're really calling into question whether the people that spent the better part of a decade building this server really care about classic everquest? Seriously?

You could go do research and bump the threads that deal with this very issue in bug reports and present cogent arguments and evidence rather than simply "bitch and moan" as you say.

How does one complete an investigation where most of the contemporaneous evidence is now inaccessible or missing? Sometimes the devs have to make a gut call and go with it.

[ergo]

You're really calling into question whether the people that spent the better part of a decade building this server really care about classic everquest? Seriously?

Based on this topic and a few others, yes I am in fact calling into question their caring about it being ACTUAL classic and not just THEIR version of classic.

This change in and of itself is direct evidence of why I question it.

You could go do research and bump the threads that deal with this very issue in bug reports and present cogent arguments and evidence rather than simply "bitch and moan" as you say.

But they are going to do what they want anyway? People have clearly done that and they clearly do not care. Otherwise the research would be solid and they wouldnt have to say it was inconclusive, yet people know for a fact you could get your epic and delevel and STILL EQUIP IT. You might not be able to click a cleric till 50, but making it so you cant equip it, is not classic.

How does one complete an investigation where most of the contemporaneous evidence is now inaccessible or missing?

Indeed you fucking wait and dont break shit and withhold judgement instead of kneejerk nerfing epics for no real reason.

Sometimes the devs have to make a gut call and go with it.

But it still isn't justification for breaking MQs of epic, and making it so you cant even equip it. "we dont think anyone under 46 should equip a piece of gear' should founded on solid evidence with zero room to fuck it up after YEARS of allow it.

That would make the most sense, unless, again there is some reason they have not made public, like them not liking rogues on red murdering people. At least then I could understand that, and I could even offer a solution that doesnt fuck over shamans, clerics which cant click their damn epics anyway BUT can wear them.

But no, its ' we dont know, but we like the idea, even if it isnt classic.' So yeah, I am gonna disagree with that.

[Messie]

Ergo, relax.