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Old 04-30-2013, 11:33 PM
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Actually read OP...i think you are spot on. However, Stannis may need to die imo. He has sacraficed so much and done some dark things to attain his goal. If John takes that from him I dont know that he will go peacefully into the night. I guess it depends on if he really is drinking the red ladys koolaid or just using her as a means to a end. Namely him on the throne.
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:32 AM
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Poor Stannis. he may need to die indeed. but maybe not. if he actually is Azor Azai, and if lightbringer is actually the men of the nights watch, then its a perfect fit for him to lead the watch.

but more likely, Melisandre (whom i believe to be the least talented of the 3 red priests, thoros and moqorro being the other two) has been seeing future visions of Jon in her fires, and not Stannis.

If Stannis does die, well then we have Gendry and Edric, one (or both) of them can be legitimized, and become the new Lord of the Baratheon house.

If Stannis does not die.. well thats a pickle. firstly because Stannis sees himself as the rightful king, he WILL NOT bend the knee to any one else. if he was willing to kill Renly, hes not pledging fealty to anyone else. he can't be king of the north, because hes not of the north. not to mention Rickon is still alive, and Sansa is to be married to Harry the Heir, which would unite the vale of Arryn and the North, again, leaving no place for Stannis.

at the wall, Stannis can be lord commander, as well as get away with not kneeling before any other king, furthermore, he would not be subject to the whims of whoever the king may end up being.

i just think that from a writing point of view, theres a reason Jon was the 998th commander of the nights watch. more specifically, i think theres a reason we are so close to 1000. i think there will be a short lived interim Lord Commander that will take over after Jon, but will ultimately not last (for whatever reason), and then will be followed by the 1000th Lord Commander of the Nights Watch (ie: Stannis imo)
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Poor Stannis. he may need to die indeed. but maybe not. if he actually is Azor Azai, and if lightbringer is actually the men of the nights watch, then its a perfect fit for him to lead the watch.

but more likely, Melisandre (whom i believe to be the least talented of the 3 red priests, thoros and moqorro being the other two) has been seeing future visions of Jon in her fires, and not Stannis.

If Stannis does die, well then we have Gendry and Edric, one (or both) of them can be legitimized, and become the new Lord of the Baratheon house.

If Stannis does not die.. well thats a pickle. firstly because Stannis sees himself as the rightful king, he WILL NOT bend the knee to any one else. if he was willing to kill Renly, hes not pledging fealty to anyone else. he can't be king of the north, because hes not of the north. not to mention Rickon is still alive, and Sansa is to be married to Harry the Heir, which would unite the vale of Arryn and the North, again, leaving no place for Stannis.

at the wall, Stannis can be lord commander, as well as get away with not kneeling before any other king, furthermore, he would not be subject to the whims of whoever the king may end up being.

i just think that from a writing point of view, theres a reason Jon was the 998th commander of the nights watch. more specifically, i think theres a reason we are so close to 1000. i think there will be a short lived interim Lord Commander that will take over after Jon, but will ultimately not last (for whatever reason), and then will be followed by the 1000th Lord Commander of the Nights Watch (ie: Stannis imo)
Not thought about Stannis becoming LC. I do like the idea though, he fits so well with the position.
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Not thought about Stannis becoming LC. I do like the idea though, he fits so well with the position.
if he isnt killed in battle, its really the only path i see as viable for him. Hell, if Dany takes the Iron Throne, she could easily sentence Stannis to serve out his days at the wall, and then it's not even Stannis's choice at that point
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she reminds me of a female version of Tywin.

fawk, imagine if Tywin married Olenna Redwyne (Tyrell) instead of his own cousin Joanna. that would have been the most dangerous couple in westeros. Sadly, Tywinn loved Joanna, and Olenna hated the Lannisters (in SoS, an early Sansa chapter, we learn that in her youth she almost married a member of House Targaryen, but Olenna did everything she could to make sure it never came to fruition).

only thing is, i have no idea how old the QoT actually is.
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Old 05-06-2013, 03:03 PM
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Shocking no one, the Queen of Thorns owned again.

Also, I was a little surprised that Ros already bit it. I figured she was gonna take Dontos' place helping get Sansa out of King's Landing/ dying. At least she died how she lived, full of shafts.
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lol, she did indeed. i felt Roz was in danger for awhile now, since there was no place for her in the vale, her only chance was to buddy up with Tyrion.

any idea what Melisandre was talking about when she was talking about the "eyes" staring back at her from inside Arya?

also, looks like they are merging Edric Storm and Gendry into one character.

next week.... BEAR PITS!
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Old 05-08-2013, 11:25 AM
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The bear and the maiden fair, indeed.

The eyes? I'm guessing it's either all the people she will kill or all the different faces she will wear while doing the killing. I can't remember if GRRM said that her eye color changed when she changed her face for her assassination.

I can't blame them for a lot of the character merges. They only get ~9-10 hours per season, so limiting the cast isn't the worst thing. It takes time to introduce characters! Also, with them working so closely with GRRM it probably means Gendry doesn't really have an important role left in the books, otherwise untangling this Mereneese knot will be a bitch.
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Old 05-08-2013, 01:08 PM
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I'm not sure why but the scene with Thoros talking about losing his faith and how he just didn't want his friend to die has to be one of my favorite scene... Is melisandre jealous of his power? I kind of got the feeling she thinks the power is hers/the priests... Where Thoros trully believes its the one true gods will.

And beric is a badass .... I think one of the best actors to characters IMO...
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