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[DinoTriz2]

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[Thorondor]

Values are worthless, so lets elevate care and fairness above and disregard all the others, because muh feels.

[DinoTriz2]

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[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think they're consciously aware of their bias, but yes. This question is a waste of time.

wasn't looking to waste your time, but it wasn't a waste of time for me if that is any consolation! it gives me something to think about. trying to understand it to see how it makes sense, so I can either except it or help others reject it. to me, it seeke like an arbitrary association or circular logic. this is what it looks like to me:

"that persons is doing that thing because they are racist."
"how do you know they are racist?"
"because that is what racist people do."
"those things seem like reasonable points of concern though and they insist the issue isn't race"
"that's only because they don't know their racist."

is that really the argument or am I oversimplifying it? how do we know when talking about values isn't racist? even if we assume that in most/many cases it is?

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

wasn't looking to waste your time, but it wasn't a waste of time for me if that is any consolation! it gives me something to think about. trying to understand it to see how it makes sense, so I can either except it or help others reject it. to me, it seeke like an arbitrary association or circular logic. this is what it looks like to me:

"that persons is doing that thing because they are racist."
"how do you know they are racist?"
"because that is what racist people do."
"those things seem like reasonable points of concern though and they insist the issue isn't race"
"that's only because they don't know their racist."

is that really the argument or am I oversimplifying it? how do we know when talking about values isn't racist? even if we assume that in most/many cases it is?

Why does it matter why? Thing is still being done. If you agree thing is bad, what's the utility of why?

[Wonkie]

If it seems like a reasonable point of concern to you, welp, Reported.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why does it matter why? Thing is still being done. If you agree thing is bad, what's the utility of why?

it's the only path to common understanding. if you can find your way to them, then you see where they are going and you can show them how to get to you. feel like you are being trolly again though lol.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If it seems like a reasonable point of concern to you, welp, Reported.

we're talking about values, not your perception of people's motives behind discussing them.

/BONK

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yeah i'm bored of this topic. you make my head hurt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sorry! ^^;

*puts away /bonk*

[DinoTriz2]

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