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Originally Posted by unsunghero
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I’ve not heard one media source call them that. Those are entirely my words, from seeing protestors scream, spit, make inhuman noises in attempts to drown out speakers saying things they don’t like
Chants, I have no problem with. Catchy sayings, no problem. Marching, no problem. But when you use boat horns, sirens (these were at the Matt walsh protests) you are literally exploiting a free speech loophole in order to silence via drowning out someone else’s free speech, and that’s a bunch of bullshit to me
I know that most protests still don’t have these, but the ones that protest conservative rallies do
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You're kinda moving the goalposts here. You said "I’ve always had the opinion that most protestors are usually low IQ, gullible, easy to manipulate to violence by people significantly smarter than them for political interests." Now it's just the ones that drown out conservative protests, specifically?
If you think that's exploiting a free speech loophole, you'll never believe what tear gas or an LRAD can do in a public space.
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Originally Posted by Kaveh
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If you help every last person who enters the United States, you will have a never ending cycle of people entering the United States
Military spending ought to cover it? Do you know how much it costs to provide people with everything? Housing and food in the US is 10x as expensive as it is in El Salvador. Even if your goal is to help, foreign aid would be far more efficient and utilitarian
I’ve heard every argument about illegal immigration in my lifetime, not only because I’m a legal immigrant but also because my daughter in law is Salvadoran. Frankly, all of them sound like wishful thinking not grounded in mathematics. We are broke
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It costs a shitload. It's one of those things where the alternative is worse, though. Both in the evil acts that refusing those 'illegal' immigrants will someday entail, assuming they aren't being done already, and in the actual cost of the problem in, say, ten years. Or hypothetical water/climate related wars, those would be far more expensive than humanitarian programs, foreign or domestic.
The never ending cycle of people entering the United States is coming no matter what we do or don't do.
I think what irks me about the mentality I see amongst many Americans is that unless you have indigenous person blood - and I don't - you're an 'illegal' immigrant.