The official RMTer Goodbye P1999 Thread

[Daysprung]

Originally Posted by ibso [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I remember running by Mylee on my monk, on the way to camp Raster. She was like level 20 & killing mobs near scryer in guktop. I remembered the name. Fast forward a few weeks and who do I see in Karnors, by a level 53 Mylee LFG! I think I had gained about 3 or 4 levels in that amount of time. I admit feeling a little bitter, despite my best efforts. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It was time spent more than anything...I mostly grouped and had good gear from money earned on my cleric so I could solo OK too but I didn't like to solo its boring. I think I had at least 20 RL days played on Mylee...

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Daysprung [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It was time spent more than anything...I mostly grouped and had good gear from money earned on my cleric so I could solo OK too but I didn't like to solo its boring. I think I had at least 20 RL days played on Mylee...

20 in game days since January?? Well there goes the whole RMTers do it cause they don't have as much time excuse.

[Daysprung]

Originally Posted by Quineloe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OP has no time, however managed to get a level 60 cleric in just 2 months...

Actually I started my cleric back in fall of 2010. I got 50 in a few months then quit and came back last fall and finished 50-60 in a few more months. Mylee was created in January and took about 3 months to get 55.

[Duckwalk]

Last I checked most of the TMO accounts linked to duping / exploiting ( and RMTing) were only suspended as it was a very small minority who had access to a large number of accounts thereby compromising them.

Then again how much of a loss is it when you lose one VP geared toon while having 5 more geared and banked alts ready to step in.

What do you think people have been doing farming the same content over the past 3 years?

[Kekephee]

edit: I was in the wrong thread! This makes more sense!

[Messianic]

Crazy guy with all the emoticons has a point... nobody runs servers for free.

Assuming that people only have monetary utility when they do things is stupid.

[Dinfalas]

Originally Posted by MaksimMazor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No remorse for cheaters

Hysterical.. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by odiecat99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

says the guy in a guild full of cheaters and rmt

You beat me to it Odie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Not to mention this group of folks were involved with over a hundred accounts that were temporarily banned for exploiting P1999 for an innumerable amount of platinum into the economy.

Which brings me to my next question: Why do the RMT folks get permanently banned as opposed to temporary bans given out to the game exploiters? Seems to me the real damage is not even comparable. Some Joe buys a FBSS for $20 from platlord and his account gets the death penalty where as P1999 Platinum exploiters get a month or two ban? I am all for a draconian punishment for rule breakers, however the judgement being served in these two cases is like giving the High School weed dealer the guillotine and then letting El Chapo and his murdering buddies perform community service for snorting a pallet of cocaine in a human trafficking hotel..[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by Dinfalas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hysterical.. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]



You beat me to it Odie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Not to mention this group of folks were involved with over a hundred accounts that were temporarily banned for exploiting P1999 for an innumerable amount of platinum into the economy.

Which brings me to my next question: Why do the RMT folks get permanently banned as opposed to temporary bans given out to the game exploiters? Seems to me the real damage is not even comparable. Some Joe buys a FBSS for $20 from platlord and his account gets the death penalty where as P1999 Platinum exploiters get a month or two ban? I am all for a draconian punishment for rule breakers, however the judgement being served in these two cases is like giving the High School weed dealer the guillotine and then letting El Chapo and his murdering buddies perform community service for snorting a pallet of cocaine in a human trafficking hotel..[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There seems to be a lot of confusion over this.

Only 2 people were exploiting. We banned every account they had logged into over the course of ~3 years, even if it was only a single time. When the actual owners of the accounts petitioned, we dropped the bans to suspensions on a case-by-case basis, so long as the account was clean and had a limited number of logins from one of the people who exploited.

If we had thought leadership or a larger portion of the guild was involved, we would have disbanded the guild and held leadership responsible.

The exploiters themselves got not only their accounts permanently banned, but also a number of accounts that weren't even theirs banned as well (based on high # of logins)

So, yes, I'd say that's substantially worse.

[Dinfalas]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There seems to be a lot of confusion over this.

Only 2 people were exploiting. We banned every account they had logged into over the course of ~3 years, even if it was only a single time. When the actual owners of the accounts petitioned, we dropped the bans to suspensions on a case-by-case basis, so long as the account was clean and had a limited number of logins from one of the people who exploited.

If we had thought leadership or a larger portion of the guild was involved, we would have disbanded the guild and held leadership responsible.

The exploiters themselves got not only their accounts permanently banned, but also a number of accounts that weren't even theirs banned as well (based on high # of logins)

So, yes, I'd say that's substantially worse.

I retract my statement if this was the case. I appreciate you taking the time to clear that up Derubael.

[Ghoulbane]

P99 staffers keep more records on your login habbits than the US government does! ha!