Quitting TMO - Page 31

Lazie · #**301** 04-21-2015, 04:43 PM

Also Chest. I think you should have learned by now that the things posted in RNF (Since I am sure you are about to link 1000 examples) are trolls. See we tell you this continuously and you still bite the bait.

arsenalpow · #**302** 04-21-2015, 04:43 PM

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Uh. That was a different situation where we got trained by another guild in the zone. The rule was unclear on where Inny could be pulled to. The petition and the results of it helped clarify that. It wasn't to take a kill away we were just under an impression you couldn't pull to zone in. Good Kill.

That training strat is a major reason why we haven't made the leap to R. Let's say we're racing for Inny. You pull a train and either win or wipe. If you win the collateral damage is irrelevant, if you lose the collateral damage generally wipes the competition and then the burden of proof is on me to find the 7 camera angles to make my case. The train isn't even intended to wipe the competition, but it happens all the same. That shit is never punished and it's just considered the cost of doing business. It's not appetizing. I can't even imagine the impending ToV trains fighting over shit.

arsenalpow · #**303** 04-21-2015, 04:44 PM

Leap to C. Derp.

Lazie · #**304** 04-21-2015, 04:45 PM

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That training strat is a major reason why we haven't made the leap to R. Let's say we're racing for Inny. You pull a train and either win or wipe. If you win the collateral damage is irrelevant, if you lose the collateral damage generally wipes the competition and then the burden of proof is on me to find the 7 camera angles to make my case. The train isn't even intended to wipe the competition, but it happens all the same. That shit is never punished and it's just considered the cost of doing business. It's not appetizing. I can't even imagine the impending ToV trains fighting over shit.

That's why we don't pull to zone in anymore. That way if anyone gets trained by our actions it's ourselves.

rictus204 · #**305** 04-21-2015, 04:46 PM

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Asgard left to class C, sounds like they ran from us (winkyfase?)

if we are forced to play competitively, why not go do it in class C?

Lazie · #**306** 04-21-2015, 04:49 PM

If you think trains aren't avoidable in Velious with larger zones then I don't know what to tell you though.

Samoht · #**307** 04-21-2015, 04:49 PM

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if we are forced to play competitively, why not go do it in class C?

well, in Class C, guilds are allowed to monopolize all of the content without lockouts. in class R, guilds are forced to rotate. it prevents monopolization so that you probably won't get trained by TMO on ever VS attempt, just 1/3 of them.

arsenalpow · #**308** 04-21-2015, 04:50 PM

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That's why we don't pull to zone in anymore. That way if anyone gets trained by our actions it's ourselves.

It doesn't have to be the zone in. The fact that you're dragging all these mobs around the zone to buy time creates fucking chaos and kills the rogues or monks scouting to make a tag or holy shit potential cross aggro that can infect the other raid force.

The Inny we won was initially engaged near the well, it still wiped Taken and half of your guild. That shouldn't be ok. If I were Taken I'd be FURIOUS that IB's reckless behavior cost my guild a kill. Not to mention that strat leaves for a simple resolution when it's just IB and TMO fighting for shit, how do you make amends when it's 5 guilds competing and the actions of one guild fuck over 4 other parties?

Detoxx · #**309** 04-21-2015, 04:50 PM

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So how was it that Detoxx randomly got a guise though? Someone was curious about Argh, but doesn't talk about his own guildie?

Them blooming onions doe

arsenalpow · #**310** 04-21-2015, 04:51 PM

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if we are forced to play competitively, why not go do it in class C?

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well, in Class C, guilds are allowed to monopolize all of the content without lockouts. in class R, guilds are forced to rotate. it prevents monopolization so that you probably won't get trained by TMO on ever VS attempt, just 1/3 of them.

Pretty much.