"Fair and legitimate chance at a target" (cont)

[maskedmelonpai]

thread growing too many paragraphs :c

[Metalopolis]

Originally Posted by skipdog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I never said the raiding rules here are exactly like classic. Can you even read? The point is that the best pixels should be mostly acquired by the guilds willing to put in the work. The definition of the 'work' has evolved and changed as the raiding rules have evolved and changed. Not every member of these guilds puts in the same amount of 'work' and that is ok... that's what DKP is for. Guilds need FTE'ers, a competent pull team, fresh warm bodies ready to respond to a batphone at various times of the day and then good communication/organization to not fuck up the one attempt. Everybody does their part. Very glad that Sirken confirmed that this server will remain what it has always been. Those who want instanced, easy loot are encouraged to go elsewhere, thanks Sirken!

It's EXTREMELY easy to get top tier loot on P99 -- you simply join A or A and if a couple months time you're getting end game drops.

Literally any level 60 player on the server could warm body for A/A and get geared out. It's the definition of easy, trivial item acquisition.

[Daldaen]

Need Luclin and PoP for some competition.

[skipdog]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A fixed speed foot race that is won simply by twitch reflexes and presence is not a competition.

There's a difference between can't and won't. Every single person with eyes, fingers and time are capable of what you erroneously label competition. Those that won't, won't because it's idiotic. There is nothing satisfying about what you call "competition" and it makes what could be an enjoyable past time, shit.

If these shitty raid mechanics were taken out, and all the "competitors" (lol) were sent to Red, and Blue was put on a (very classic) rotation, the Blue server would have 2-3k population every night (with many of the people you say can't cut it coming back) and Red would still have a population of 100 every night, because the 50 additional raiders they'd get saying they want "competition" would quit because they can't cut it there and they wouldn't have their warmbody supports, because they'd be happily rotating mobs on Blue.

Ahh yes, the ol 'THE SERVER WOULD BE 2k-3k POP EVERY NIGHT IF THE MEANIES WOULD GO AWAY!' argument! Yeah, I'm sure that's realistic.

I understand that you don't think winning FTE footraces is fun for anybody. That's fine, people like different things. You probably didn't enjoy the lack of variance. You probably didn't enjoy the 'first to 15 in zone' rules. You probably didn't enjoy when we sat on spawns points instead of having footraces. You probably didn't enjoy the coth racing. But it sounds like you'd be happy rotating mobs. Not surprised... I mean do you even realize how few pixels each guild would get with a 10 guild rotation on everything? Why aren't you just happily playing on Phinny or any of the other classic emus and ignoring this forum forever? The fact is, you are just a sore loser who can never let it go. Just like Chest. Always destined to be a scrub in a low tier guild trying to bash those on the top. Always coming back to this forum to make fun of those who enjoy different things and those willing to put in the work to be the best.

[skipdog]

Originally Posted by Metalopolis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's EXTREMELY easy to get top tier loot on P99 -- you simply join A or A and if a couple months time you're getting end game drops.

Literally any level 60 player on the server could warm body for A/A and get geared out. It's the definition of easy, trivial item acquisition.

Ahh yes, the 'ol 'ANYBODY COULD JOIN THE BEST TEAM AND WIN TOO' argument. What is your point? Yes, if you join one of the top guilds on the server and put in a ton of time and work, you will get rewarded for your time and work. Isn't that the point?

Trivial? Do you know how many raids one must attend to get one piece of BiS loot on average? It's certainly not a trivial amount of time.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by skipdog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ahh yes, the ol 'THE SERVER WOULD BE 2k-3k POP EVERY NIGHT IF THE MEANIES WOULD GO AWAY!' argument! Yeah, I'm sure that's realistic.

I understand that you don't think winning FTE footraces is fun for anybody. That's fine, people like different things. You probably didn't enjoy the lack of variance. You probably didn't enjoy the 'first to 15 in zone' rules. You probably didn't enjoy when we sat on spawns points instead of having footraces. You probably didn't enjoy the coth racing. But it sounds like you'd be happy rotating mobs. Not surprised... I mean do you even realize how few pixels each guild would get with a 10 guild rotation on everything? Why aren't you just happily playing on Phinny or any of the other classic emus and ignoring this forum forever? The fact is, you are just a sore loser who can never let it go. Just like Chest. Always destined to be a scrub in a low tier guild trying to bash those on the top. Always coming back to this forum to make fun of those who enjoy different things and those willing to put in the work to be the best.

Answer honestly, how would you feel if a 2nd Blue server were opened, as far in the timeline as the current Blue server (no legacy items) but all raid mobs are on rotation? You'd get to keep your "competitive" server which is so great to so many people, and those that just want to play classic EQ in a bullshit free way can as well. Everyone gets a choice of what they want to do. Would you object to that?

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by skipdog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Those who want instanced, easy loot are encouraged to go elsewhere, thanks Sirken!

Or they can just stay here...On this server with an not-classic raid scene that facilitates "warm bodies" getting easy loot.

[maskedmelonpai]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or they can just stay here...On this server with an not-classic raid scene that facilitates "warm bodies" getting easy loot.

This is SO true. If you a casual and want to get loot, you can do that very well here on p99. Just join A/A/R/AG/E/O and you can see all sorts of neat stuff and get loots. No need to sit around being angry that some players have more free time or are better organized or interested in doing things you aren't. Just Jon up and have fun. All those guilds are super easy to join :3

[JurisDictum]

The only point people are trying to make here (that I see), is that it's not classic (the server goal) and its not fun (so why break with the server goal?).

Originally Posted by skipdog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I understand that you don't think winning FTE footraces is fun for anybody. That's fine, people like different things. You probably didn't enjoy the lack of variance. You probably didn't enjoy the 'first to 15 in zone' rules. You probably didn't enjoy when we sat on spawns points instead of having footraces. You probably didn't enjoy the coth racing. But it sounds like you'd be happy rotating mobs.

Yep. I'm guessing the vast majority of people that play here never really wanted to stare at walls week after week. Go figure.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by skipdog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Glad there is still a server where classic eq guilds have to compete with eachother for the best loot in the game. Thanks Sirken for making things clear. If you want easy uncontested instanced loot, go play somewhere else!

Just to be clear, I beat P99. Shroud/Abashi's/10th Ring/Monkpants and a few other random items. And I did it without poopsocking, which is really twice the victory!