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[Raev]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://mobile.twitter.com/AshKSkeet...62333936865281

OK, I laughed. But let's think about how people will react to this:

• Leftists: all members of the alt-right are plotting genocide and it is your moral duty to oppose a second Holocaust
• Alt-right: no matter what position you take, the left is determined to kill you, so you had better do it first

In other words this video is propaganda carefully designed by master persuaders to distract your conscious brain with humor while delivering a message of hate directly to your limbic system. I'm not too proud to admit that I was steaming for about 5 minutes before the light bulb suddenly clicked.

Speaking of Nazis, have you noticed how incredibly pro-Israel and pro-Jew Trump is? That's not an accident: he doesn't want a repeat of 1933 where the rage of the proletariat is directed against the Jews instead of the Deep State, which is the real problem. And this is not a Republican/Democrat issue. Have you noticed how CNN, theoretically a deeply liberal news outlet, is running a long, sympathetic series on the Bush dynasty? Because Bush and Obama and Clinton and McCain all played for the same team against the American people.

TLDR: Unless you want a neofeudal world government ruling over brainwashed debt slaves, you should be supporting Trump right now. We can work out the rest of the political differences later.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by HalflingPower [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

good points but don't be naive in thinking trump isnt controlled by SPECIAL INTEREST. be careful saying the J word.

Well, this is the worst case. I don't think Trump's actions are consistent with this: if he was simply another faction of the Deep State he would be trying to take control of the various parts of the apparatus (media, intelligence, law enforcement, politics) rather than trying to destroy them. But it's not impossible.

Anyway, in the short term Trump is clearly working in the interests of the American people. In the long term, who knows. Generally speaking in a Fourth Turning all sorts of critical issues get worked out, and that will include environmentalism and sexual deviancy and so on.

[Teppler]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, this is the worst case. I don't think Trump's actions are consistent with this: if he was simply another faction of the Deep State he would be trying to take control of the various parts of the apparatus (media, intelligence, law enforcement, politics) rather than trying to destroy them. But it's not impossible.

Anyway, in the short term Trump is clearly working in the interests of the American people. In the long term, who knows. Generally speaking in a Fourth Turning all sorts of critical issues get worked out, and that will include environmentalism and sexual deviancy and so on.

How do you come to terms with the fact that Trump's America is funding Israel's border wall but he can't get it done domestically even though he had the bargaining chips?

IMO he is ineffective and I'm undecided on voting for him again.

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[DMN]

Originally Posted by Teppler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How do you come to terms with the fact that Trump's America is funding Israel's border wall but he can't get it done domestically even though he had the bargaining chips?

IMO he is ineffective and I'm undecided on voting for him again.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ons/640196001/

check the date.

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OK, I laughed. But let's think about how people will react to this:

• Leftists: all members of the alt-right are plotting genocide and it is your moral duty to oppose a second Holocaust
• Alt-right: no matter what position you take, the left is determined to kill you, so you had better do it first

In other words this video is propaganda carefully designed by master persuaders to distract your conscious brain with humor while delivering a message of hate directly to your limbic system. I'm not too proud to admit that I was steaming for about 5 minutes before the light bulb suddenly clicked.

Speaking of Nazis, have you noticed how incredibly pro-Israel and pro-Jew Trump is? That's not an accident: he doesn't want a repeat of 1933 where the rage of the proletariat is directed against the Jews instead of the Deep State, which is the real problem. And this is not a Republican/Democrat issue. Have you noticed how CNN, theoretically a deeply liberal news outlet, is running a long, sympathetic series on the Bush dynasty? Because Bush and Obama and Clinton and McCain all played for the same team against the American people.

TLDR: Unless you want a neofeudal world government ruling over brainwashed debt slaves, you should be supporting Trump right now. We can work out the rest of the political differences later.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCp4...ature=youtu.be

[Teppler]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ons/640196001/

check the date.

If Trump has enemies on both sides, which I too believe he does, why did he sign the spending bill to fund all of republican and democrat congresses projects? They are the enemy and they wouldn't give him the votes on something the public voted him into the executive office to do. Why did he sign off on funding for the establishment without funding for the wall?

Expert deal maker? One of the reasons I wouldn't mind new blood in Trump's place is that he's ineffectual. I voted him in to get his campaign promises done. He's more concerned with building up Israel.

[DinoTriz2]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCp4...ature=youtu.be

Again, this is circlejerk comedy.

It's the laziest form of comedy because you don't even need to form a proper joke when your audience agrees with you politically.

It's made to reinforce ideas by using outlandish strawmen and you eat it up because you're a lemming.

You could flip the roles with right wingers who call every leftist a "Communist". The joke needs some truth in order to be funny.

The mainstream attitude fully accepts calling anyone a "Nazi". There's no scenario ever where a random woman would chastise you for calling another person a nazi.

What really happens is the woman overhears you call the man a Nazi and then she proceeds to physically attack him without questioning the accusation.

Because you're all zombies who don't think. Mob mentality is all the rage now (no pun intended) and we all know mob justice ALWAYS works and never goes off the rails.

[DinoTriz2]

Here's an example of reality

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by DinoTriz2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's no scenario ever where a random woman would chastise you for calling another person a nazi.

but that's what you're doing.

you out?