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Old 08-26-2023, 10:01 AM
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The Showeq thing concerns me. I'll still be scoping out the server, but I'm less confident that this will be the p99 replacement for me.
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Old 08-26-2023, 08:55 PM
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Only thing that concerns me is GG is all over Quarms discord, dude is batshit crazy
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Old 08-26-2023, 10:17 PM
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In case you missed the announcement in Discord / stream:

Project Quarm launches October 1st, 2023 @ 3pm EST / 12PM PST / 7PM UTC.

See you there!
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Old 08-26-2023, 10:18 PM
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Also, I think it's fair to mention the earthquake raid rules folks were concerned about were mostly removed.

Here's the three remaining rulesets for earthquakes, and GM-Enforced Rotations are still the default rules:

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DPS race for the next 24 hours. During a DPS race ruleset, yellow text is disabled.
First to Engage receives credit. Players will have 60 seconds once engaging an NPC to get its HP below 97% to solidify the tag. Loot will be revoked if the yellow text is not adhered to.
Extra Rotation NPC. Only guilds in that rotation will have access to kill the extra NPC. Anyone who violates this rule falls under the kill stealing violations and will result in punishment.
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Old 08-26-2023, 11:15 PM
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What advantage is having showeq to the running of the server. I get that it 'shows' things to players they cant possibly know. Can it be limited? Like no warping and loot inspection enforced via showeq version somehow. Idk. Wondering why its even a thing. Seems cheaty to me.
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What advantage is having showeq to the running of the server. I get that it 'shows' things to players they cant possibly know. Can it be limited? Like no warping and loot inspection enforced via showeq version somehow. Idk. Wondering why its even a thing. Seems cheaty to me.
It's definitely cheaty. I dislike it for the same reason I dislike boxing, I won't be doing it. So if it's not going to be disciplined against everyone's gonna be using it. It's also tied hand in hand with the RMT community.
And if everyone's using it there goes my idea of a 1box pop server that feels legit.

I'll still keep my eyes on it. I'm hopeful I'm wrong but I'm worried it's just gonna be a cheat rmt fest.
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Old 08-27-2023, 11:15 AM
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It's definitely cheaty. I dislike it for the same reason I dislike boxing, I won't be doing it. So if it's not going to be disciplined against everyone's gonna be using it. It's also tied hand in hand with the RMT community.
And if everyone's using it there goes my idea of a 1box pop server that feels legit.

I'll still keep my eyes on it. I'm hopeful I'm wrong but I'm worried it's just gonna be a cheat rmt fest.
The problem with cheats is, they're a race to the bottom.

You say you won't use them now, but after the tenth time of tracking a named, only to find a non-tracker with ShowEQ beat you to it, the odds of you adopting the cheat will rise.

By allowing ShowEQ, Secrets is basically saying he wants everyone to use ShowEQ: that's just human nature when it comes to cheats, because no one likes being beaten by a cheater.
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Old 08-27-2023, 12:57 PM
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Stupid question. As a casual, am I going to care if people use showeq? I can’t see that it would affect my day to day.

And also, do I need to install Everquest again and use one for p99 and one for this project?

Thanks all
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Old 08-27-2023, 01:57 PM
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The problem with cheats is, they're a race to the bottom.

You say you won't use them now, but after the tenth time of tracking a named, only to find a non-tracker with ShowEQ beat you to it, the odds of you adopting the cheat will rise.

By allowing ShowEQ, Secrets is basically saying he wants everyone to use ShowEQ: that's just human nature when it comes to cheats, because no one likes being beaten by a cheater.
Exactly.

So you either join in on what you're not interested in doing, or you knowingly play suboptimally.
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Old 08-27-2023, 01:59 PM
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Stupid question. As a casual, am I going to care if people use showeq? I can’t see that it would affect my day to day.

And also, do I need to install Everquest again and use one for p99 and one for this project?

Thanks all
ShowEQ in a general sense is a 3rd party app that gives zone information like if a named mob is up ect.
At its best it makes everyone a ranger tracker
At its worst it warps ppl around the map
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