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Old 12-20-2013, 04:34 PM
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Sen, long time no see. Good to see you.

Back when IB was in the top spot, I recall DA/VD were competing just fine. Without logging at mobs fully buffed. I also recall TMO getting mobs. There was a good amount of loot going each way.

Then a gm with obvious conflicts of interests ran IB off. DA went with TMO and game over. The raid scene has been fairly one sided ever since.

I also recall TMO immediately turning the spin/flame monster onto BDA after VD folded. Without provocation.

To the TMO people. Wouldn't you enjoy "the race" if you were competing against 4 other equally capable guilds?
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Old 12-20-2013, 04:52 PM
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Back when IB was in the top spot, I recall DA/VD were competing just fine. Without logging at mobs fully buffed. I also recall TMO getting mobs. There was a good amount of loot going each way.
The raid scene was terribly one sided until DA came around, and they had to crawl and scratch their way into the raid scene... It wasn't pretty, but through a lot of hard work they succeeded. Go back and read these forums from then, I think you are forgetting. Things were nasty, nasty, nasty. They are pretty civil now in comparison.

And before Kunark there was basically two raid guilds: IB and DA. There were also 5 targets. Think about that. Compare that to now. It makes sense why things were so horrible when you think about it. I think time has softened the lenses on our past history here.

Btw, it wasn't until a year later that VD competed, when IB needed their bodies for joint raids. And then VD/BDA teamed for a bit... I don't think VD was ever a raid force on its own, other than for planar clears (and yes VD and DA teamed, but that was to clear PoSky pre-Kunark, which wasn't "competitive" in the same sense).
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Old 12-20-2013, 05:48 PM
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I don't think VD was ever a raid force on its own
Much to the ire of Teeroy and Sen, I'm sure, they had too many members like me who couldnt/wouldnt put in the necessary time to make their raiding dreams some true. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 12-20-2013, 04:56 PM
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Sen, long time no see. Good to see you.

Back when IB was in the top spot, I recall DA/VD were competing just fine. Without logging at mobs fully buffed. I also recall TMO getting mobs. There was a good amount of loot going each way.

Then a gm with obvious conflicts of interests ran IB off. DA went with TMO and game over. The raid scene has been fairly one sided ever since.

I also recall TMO immediately turning the spin/flame monster onto BDA after VD folded. Without provocation.

To the TMO people. Wouldn't you enjoy "the race" if you were competing against 4 other equally capable guilds?
We would enjoy the race. BDA was flamed because they absorbed IB/VD leftovers who were using a known Memblur exploit in VP.
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Old 12-20-2013, 05:17 PM
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Someone is forgetting what the server was like when IB was the top dog. Hint: the situation was the same, the characters and guildtags were just different.
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nah it wasn't.

we cleared kunark before you. we beat all the shit and everyone left. IB today is not IB/TR when kunark was released or classic.

we didn't sit around for 2 years hogging VP from everyone else. We beat that shit and moved on. Seeing all the TMO alts lot on last night with best in slot kinda made me sick. IB never had that, neither did TR.

in b4 we beat vp b4 u. nah u didn't Rogean made us give you those first kills, remember? You probably wern't there.
Just quoting my bro Sodapop's response to Rakpartha, from another thread.

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Old 12-20-2013, 05:25 PM
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We would enjoy the race. BDA was flamed because they absorbed IB/VD leftovers who were using a known Memblur exploit in VP.
Alarti likes to leave out where a TMO member "acting on his own, much like Froovy/Internode, because plausible deniability" memblurred Talendor on VD first. The memblurring in VP was just giving TMO a taste of their own medicine, which of course they cried about.
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Old 12-20-2013, 05:27 PM
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Alarti likes to leave out where a TMO member "acting on his own, much like Froovy/Internode, because plausible deniability" memblurred Talendor on VD first. The memblurring in VP was just giving TMO a taste of their own medicine, which of course they cried about.
yea they were more pist off that they got out memblured
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Old 12-20-2013, 05:42 PM
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yea they were more pist off that they got out memblured
That's how my 7 year old spelled pissed on his homework last week. Glad I checked it before he turned it in. Damn those rhyming homeworks, and my bad mouth around him.
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Old 12-20-2013, 05:35 PM
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Alarti likes to leave out where a TMO member "acting on his own, much like Froovy/Internode, because plausible deniability" memblurred Talendor on VD first. The memblurring in VP was just giving TMO a taste of their own medicine, which of course they cried about.
Yendor likes to leave out, that no one knew that Memblur caused the dragon to regen to 100% instantly. That was the exploit.
Not to mention that Enchanter was removed from guild. VD however used a known exploit. TMO reported the bug once we found out [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You have a hard time being objective it seems.
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Old 12-20-2013, 05:43 PM
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Yendor likes to leave out, that no one knew that Memblur caused the dragon to regen to 100% instantly. That was the exploit.
Not to mention that Enchanter was removed from guild. VD however used a known exploit. TMO reported the bug once we found out [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You have a hard time being objective it seems.
That's what you claim. I claim he knew about it before hand.

No telling who is right anymore.

So let's talk more about this friendly competition for the future.
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