Upcoming change to class epics

[JDFriend99]

Originally Posted by ergo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually I can. The point was - epics should be nerfed because you cant use the effect on them before 46.

You cannot use the effect of proc weapons for the same reason. It is not designed to work before that level, so clearly the item is, by design, not for anyone under that level, if you use the same reasoning given above.

I am sorry you failed to see this. It does not matter how the item is obtained, if the item does not work before X level, then it shouldn't be equiped, if you use the same reasoning.

I am simply applying her logic and reason to other items based on the identical criteria.

Ok maybe I didn't articulate well what I meant. I mean quested items be it epics and items that take a long amount of time to complete quests on may need to be required the lvl or above of the requirement to even start the quest.

What I mean is if you can't efficiently do the quest at 1, you can't expect that item to proc at 1. When I said player made, dropped or bought weapons, I mean those drop are tradeable and have always been lvl1 proc, 20, 30, 34, 40, 44, 46... etc.

I brought the post in replying to someone saying all items shouldn't proc then till 46. That's absurd. You can't compare and epic to say a tstaff or smoldering brand. Smoldering brand drops in the hole. Off 40+ mobs... yet procs 14dd. Do you wanna be 46 using smoldering brand, or an epic or class line type item of your lvl?

That was my comment. I thought making epics 46+ to use, not equip, use...would be good. I don't really think I want a lvl10 cleric w his sprinkler. Seems rediculously not tradional.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by JDFriend99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That was my comment. I thought making epics 46+ to use, not equip, use...would be good. I don't really think I want a lvl10 cleric w his sprinkler. Seems rediculously not tradional.

Don't care. People invested time under the current classic system to get their epic and make their twinks.

Blue epics should be grandfathered in as equippable pre-46.

Any bigots care to explain why this should not be the case after all these years?

[Cecily]

But they can't and they won't cost 30k. Soooo... yeah.

[ergo]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But they can't and they won't cost 30k. Soooo... yeah.

So the price is the problem? I don't get your complaint here. If they were 3x per day, they would be 30k.

[Cecily]

But they aren't and they won't be. You do bring up a good point about power leveling, which is another festering, cancerous sore on P99.
I can not wait until Chardok RMT Inc. gets shut down.

[ergo]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But they aren't and they won't be. You do bring up a good point about power leveling, which is another festering, cancerous sore on P99.
I can not wait until Chardok RMT Inc. gets shut down.

Chardok is not the only AE location, just the most deserted. Also PLing is wonderfully classic. I did so on 5 accounts and one of my more favorite pastimes.

AE grinding is very much classic as well. As for the RMT, meh, cant fix that. As long as there is people with money willing to spend it and people willing to sell pixils, it will happen. If blizzard and other companies cant fix it, you think the part time devs of p99 stand a chance of eliminating it?

The river denial is long, it wide, and it deep.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But they aren't and they won't be. You do bring up a good point about power leveling, which is another festering, cancerous sore on P99.
I can not wait until Chardok RMT Inc. gets shut down.

Won't go into the ballistics, but will hit a few points on why this is moot now. Chardok RMT, as you call it, is shut down. The only way it was lucrative was abusing the cross-server transfer ratios and leveraging millions of plat back and forth. Not being able to perform leverage trades is the difference between a Mid-level IT paycheck, and a burger-flipping paycheck. Burger flipping doesn't pay bills.

You might say well how would leverage trading cross-server even confer such big gains? Its not/was not done simply with just platinum, the final stage would have been with items cross-server for plat. Theres four to five stages to a leverage trade, and it starts with a cross-server platinum trade, purchases of major in-demand marquee items are made, etc etc.

They're done. It will take time, but Rogean just kicked the shit out of the most lucrative RMT scheme ever when he closed cross-server trades.

Good luck continuing cross-server trading quietly now that every one-sided trade is officially a bannable offense without recourse. And "I was transfering from red" doesn't work anymore as a get out of jail card for these scumbags.

[maestrom]

You can argue that some non-planar raid drops are on par with epics and are not much more effort to obtain than an epic.

War bow comes to mind.

[Seltius]

WTB pwrlvl for Ranger from 30-46 pst in game!

[Ennewi]

1. Denial — The first reaction is denial. "Not classic." In this stage players believe the announced changes are somehow unjust, and cling to a false, preferable reality.

2. Anger — When players recognize that denial cannot continue, they become frustrated, especially at proximate individuals / Haynar. Certain psychological responses of a person undergoing this phase would be: "Why me? It's not fair!"; "How can this happen to me?"; "Who is to blame?"

3. Bargaining — The third stage involves the hope that players can avoid upcoming changes by providing evidence to support their claims. Players facing less serious trauma can bargain or seek compromise.

4. Depression — "I'm so sad, why bother with anything?"; "I miss my beloved luclin models/color target window, why go on?"
During the fourth stage, players become saddened by the mathematical probability of patch notes. In this state, these individuals may become silent, refuse visitors and spend much of the time afk, mournful and sullen.

5. Acceptance — "It's going to be okay."; "I can't fight it."; "It's their server."
In this last stage, players embrace the inevitable future of the server which typically comes with a calm, retrospective view for the player, and a stable condition of emotions.