Myconid Spore King - Monk Solo

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey DSM, do you think that allowing for outside buffs should still be on the Solo artist challange?

I think that's a reasonable update.

Should we as a community change the rules, everyone? Seems fair, but I haven't been as invested as some of the other solo artists since velious.

(lets see how DSM replies to this post)

Personally I think outside buffs for melees is fine. In the case of OP, he didn't actually need Aego to finish the fight, as he never took like 3k+ worth if damage in a short time. The extra HP from Aego just saved him some Wort Pot money.

We would have to find a specific mob that would require the extra HP from Aego to clearly make the argument that OP or other melee solo artists actually needed Aego to win the fight as opposed to using Wort Pots. The idea would be to show it is not mathematically possible to kill this mob with the melee solo artist's existing max HP self buffed.

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Personally I think outside buffs for melees is fine. In the case of OP, he didn't actually need Aego to finish the fight, as he never took like 3k+ worth if damage in a short time. The extra HP from Aego just saved him some Wort Pot money.

We would have to find a specific mob that would require the extra HP from Aego to clearly make the argument that OP or other melee solo artists actually needed aego to win the fight vs. using Wort Pots. The idea would be to show it is not mathematically possible with his existing max HP self buffed.

Oh gosh, look, a reasonable throughout respectful reply.

Hmm I wonder if it's not a DSM problem.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh gosh, look, a reasonable throughout respectful reply.

Hmm I wonder if it's not a DSM problem.

I'm wondering why he focused on Aego. The OP was raid buffed in the original video and I didn't notice Aego in the third iteration, but still had many other raid buffs.

Maybe DSM doesn't know about raid buffs? Just like he doesn't know the difference between CH chain and CH clickies or when the swing timer starts on an offhand attack.

This is the root of the problem: He's presenting himself as some sort of expert on the subject of EQ, and he sees anybody who can prove that incorrect as a threat. He resorts to calling them names and follows them around to several threads with the intent to attack them.

Just like he did on this one.

[shovelquest]

Feel free?

Open source?

Posting parses??

What an argumentitive asshole!

(SARCASM).

Loramin, your accusations do not hold up.

[shovelquest]

In the consumable less one (try 3?) he had ageo and some shaman buffs. So I agree there is some discussion to be had!

Maybe DSM doesn't know about raid buffs? Just like he doesn't know the difference between CH chain and CH clickies or when the swing timer starts on an offhand attack.

You are a master poster sir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is why the oreo factory will never get back into production once you 3 take over [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In the consumable less one (try 3?) he had ageo and some shaman buffs. So I agree there is some discussion to be had!

Yeah, I wasn't going to try to dissect that blurry mess that hard. I was done when he still had FoS and VoG.

[shovelquest]

I for one would think [S] should not allow for outside buffs. It just wont ever feel solo to me otherwise.

But despite all your guy's rage, one of you updated the wiki during this to say that.

So, I guess this has been a productive conversation!

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I for one would think [S] should not allow for outside buffs. It just wont ever feel solo to me otherwise.

But despite all your guy's rage, one of you updated the wiki during this to say that.

So, I guess this has been a productive conversation!

I wonder how long it's going to take before the updates to get defaced.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wonder how long it's going to take before the updates to get defaced.

Updating the wiki due to being angry and trying to win an argument was the only potential defacement that has been done.

If people want to actually have a conversation about changing the wiki that doesn't involve character attacks and edits that were not well written/thought out, I'd be happy to do so. But that should be another thread. OP's thread is not about changing the wiki or solo artist challenge rules.

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I for one would think [S] should not allow for outside buffs. It just wont ever feel solo to me otherwise.

There's some further discussion to be had about buffs, yeah. The amount used can vary a lot. S-tier means using less than your max HP of consumable items while having no outside buffs, so getting outside buffs instead of using consumables should also not exceed that level of effect.