the i dont care about politics anymore thread

[Ooloo]

Well yes, republicans statistically are much more likely to vote in person on election day. Thus if there's a long line and they have to go to work or something, that republican doesn't cast a vote who otherwise would have. This is why the concept of election *day* is important, and voting outside of election day should basically be restricted to overseas military and a select other few under very specific circumstances.

There are only two options:

Elections are always totally 100% cool and good.

Elections can be prone to meddling and manipulation even via things that aren't technically illegal (twitter suppressing biden family corruption literally right before an election for instance).

The whole "its fraud when my guy loses" thing is absolutely a phenomenon of both parties, but republicans generally have a much stronger case when they bring that charge. See: The last 25 years of american politics.

[Botten]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well yes, republicans statistically are much more likely to vote in person on election day. Thus if there's a long line and they have to go to work or something, that republican doesn't cast a vote who otherwise would have. This is why the concept of election *day* is important, and voting outside of election day should basically be restricted to overseas military and a select other few under very specific circumstances.

There are only two options:

Elections are always totally 100% cool and good.

Elections can be prone to meddling and manipulation even via things that aren't technically illegal (twitter suppressing biden family corruption literally right before an election for instance).

The whole "its fraud when my guy loses" thing is absolutely a phenomenon of both parties, but republicans generally have a much stronger case when they bring that charge. See: The last 25 years of american politics.

This is ridiculous even for you.

Mail in ballots shouldn’t be restricted because it fixes the very thing you are complaining about whether you have the time or ability to get in line to vote in person.

Which incidentally Republicans are even against Election Day being a nation wide holiday.

The largest election fraud in history was done by a Republican candidate.

And last I saw the laptop in question was still under investigation. Sorry you didn’t get your Clinton email fiasco to hurt Biden’s election. Hearsay and injecting what could be on the laptop isn’t exactly proof. Especially when the laptop is from his son who was coked up and sharing mostly dick pics. It is a stupid Benghazi all over again that voters are sick of reading about until nothing is ultimately found.

Republicans bring the fraud history shows this.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And so, this means the 100 extra votes don't matter, or don't count, or are legit, or aren't legit, or what are you actually saying?? Good lord. Pretend I'm dumb and render an intelligible answer that isn't in your weird forum lawyerese.

Pretend?

The extra ballots are being delivered by other parties. They are valid ballots regardless of the courier.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Botten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We'll see if he gets sanctioned for filing a meritless lawsuit.

Hey just because it's nonjusticiable doesn't mean it's meritless. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well yes, republicans statistically are much more likely to vote in person on election day. Thus if there's a long line and they have to go to work or something, that republican doesn't cast a vote who otherwise would have. This is why the concept of election *day* is important, and voting outside of election day should basically be restricted to overseas military and a select other few under very specific circumstances.

You haven't explained why restricting the franchise is good except for your party preference.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Elections can be prone to meddling and manipulation even via things that aren't technically illegal (twitter suppressing biden family corruption literally right before an election for instance).

Why would it be technically illegal for a newspaper to not publish a story?

I was told Section 230 means Twitter is a newspaper.

[Basanos]

Military personnel and a select few like what circumstances? I voted via absentee ballot here in Georgia and I will tell you it's a pain in the ass in this state. Seemed an awful lot like a deliberate pain in the ass.

[Ooloo]

You bozos, it's pretty simple. Mail-in early voting is ripe for meddling in a way same-day voting is not. The more often ballots change hands, over a longer period of time, statistically guarantees some ballots won't be counted that should be, even if only by sheer accident or incompetence. No malice is required for that.

If you had to vote on election day, in person, that levels the playing field accross parties *and* ensures that simple errors (or outright dumping ballots when you're the dude that transports them from a known red district when you're a bernie bro) are less likely to occur. Thus the winner and loser can both at least be confident that the result is legitimate. Thus increasing voter confidence broadly.

Also it looks really awful when Hobbs is like "Declare me the winner right now OR ELSE", rather than being like "Investigate anything you want, because I'm confident in the results of the election that *I* was in charge of".

Still no answer about the blatant conflict of interest in her candidacy, still no answer about why the fuck it always takes arizona like 14 days to "count the votes" when florida gets it done in one day, with a much larger population. And still no answer why none of this seems to concern you guys.

[Ooloo]

Also, btw, still no answer for why *dems* were raising these exact same concerns during the 2012 presidential and 2014 midterm elections. And even the 2016 presidential. Obama didn't like mail in voting for the exact reasons I just stated.

[Basanos]

None of this concerned Republicans when it was Brian Kemp doing it.

The reason nobody answers your poorly framed questions is that you're not asking them out of earnest concern, as people see through blatant right wing hypocrisy