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Old 07-19-2013, 06:37 PM
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How about a rotation that slides backwards, essentially a 6-day rotation? For example:

Week 1:
Mon: Rapture
Tue: BDA
Wed:TMO
Thu: A-Team
Fri:Europa
Sat AM: Taken
Sat PM: Divinity
Sun AM:Forceful
Sun PM: FC

On Deck:
1) AG
2) IB
3) Prenerf

Week 2:
Mon: BDA
Tue: TMO
Wed: A-Team
Thu: Europa
Fri: Taken
Sat AM: Divinity
Sat PM: Forceful
Sun AM:FC
Sun PM: AG

On Deck:
1) IB
2) Prenerf
3) Rapture

This is just a rough idea, but it could work. As far as rekeying, a guild would have one week to work with guilds on any day to loot and key corpses for their upcoming sunday PM raid.

Speacial considerations would have to be made for Europa, but i'm sure yall smart enough to figure it out.

While guilds would have to sit out for 3 weeks (less if more AM slots were created), they would be able to raid for 9 weeks without having to worry about re-keying.

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Old 07-19-2013, 06:42 PM
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Here's a solution that I think could work well for everyone:

Each week one guild takes a week off from raiding sky and gives IB their spot. IB raids during this rotating slot in the schedule and also takes a week off every 10 weeks to keep things equitable. This accomplishes the same thing as an 8 day cycle and doesn't screw up the 7 day setup that works well for keeping corpse banks for keys.

IB should also get the next permanent raiding slot that opens up due to guild merger, lack of interest in sky, etc.

So it would look like this:

Week 1: Sky schedule as normal, IB does not raid sky
Week 2: Rapture's week off. IB Monday
Week 3: FC's week off. IB Tuesday
Week 4: Divinity's week off. IB Wednesday PM
Week 5: Taken's week off. IB Thursday
Week 6: BDA's week off. IB Friday
Week 7: FE's week off. IB Saturday AM
Week 8: AG's week off. IB Saturday PM
Week 9: TMO's week off. IB Sunday AM
Week 10: A-Team's week off. IB Sunday PM
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Old 07-19-2013, 08:51 PM
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Here's a solution that I think could work well for everyone:

Each week one guild takes a week off from raiding sky and gives IB their spot. IB raids during this rotating slot in the schedule and also takes a week off every 10 weeks to keep things equitable. This accomplishes the same thing as an 8 day cycle and doesn't screw up the 7 day setup that works well for keeping corpse banks for keys.

IB should also get the next permanent raiding slot that opens up due to guild merger, lack of interest in sky, etc.

So it would look like this:

Week 1: Sky schedule as normal, IB does not raid sky
Week 2: Rapture's week off. IB Monday
Week 3: FC's week off. IB Tuesday
Week 4: Divinity's week off. IB Wednesday PM
Week 5: Taken's week off. IB Thursday
Week 6: BDA's week off. IB Friday
Week 7: FE's week off. IB Saturday AM
Week 8: AG's week off. IB Saturday PM
Week 9: TMO's week off. IB Sunday AM
Week 10: A-Team's week off. IB Sunday PM
not a bad idea IMO
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Old 07-19-2013, 09:29 PM
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Here's a solution that I think could work well for everyone:

Each week one guild takes a week off from raiding sky and gives IB their spot. IB raids during this rotating slot in the schedule and also takes a week off every 10 weeks to keep things equitable. This accomplishes the same thing as an 8 day cycle and doesn't screw up the 7 day setup that works well for keeping corpse banks for keys.

IB should also get the next permanent raiding slot that opens up due to guild merger, lack of interest in sky, etc.

So it would look like this:

Week 1: Sky schedule as normal, IB does not raid sky
Week 2: Rapture's week off. IB Monday
Week 3: FC's week off. IB Tuesday
Week 4: Divinity's week off. IB Wednesday PM
Week 5: Taken's week off. IB Thursday
Week 6: BDA's week off. IB Friday
Week 7: FE's week off. IB Saturday AM
Week 8: AG's week off. IB Saturday PM
Week 9: TMO's week off. IB Sunday AM
Week 10: A-Team's week off. IB Sunday PM
I know I said I wouldn't post again ha, but to prevent rekeying, maybe IB could shift to every 6 days instead of 8. Instead of going to Tuesday on week 3, they could go to Sunday. That way they aren't losing keys. Granted I'm sure they might hate raiding sky a different day every 6 days, at least they are getting worked in, in fact almost raiding sky more often.
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Old 07-19-2013, 09:44 PM
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From what I understand the guilds doing full clears are:

BDA
Divinity
FE
Rapture
Taken
TMO

Capable of full clear:
IB?

Doing 1-5
A-team
Full circle

Doing 1-4
Azure guard
Europa(?)

So that means there are currently 6 guilds doing full clears, IB wants to be the 7th.

That is 1 guild per day every day of the week.

If between Full circle, a-team, azure guard, europa forced were joined to do full clears they could also fairly reasonable fit in on sat/sunday and everyone is included assuming those 4 guilds turn into 2 raid forces.
Or we can do a rotation as divinity suggested.

Either way, when the next guild (like prenerf twinkies?) comes along, then what?

I don't speak for everyone but I would be far more inclined to let the next raid guild startup tag along on a raid before I would want to start missing more weeks to accommodate people going up and dicking around on isles 1,2,3.

Anyway, whatever people decide on, I think the rotation is quickly going down the road of completely blowing up either way. The server is at critical mass for raid guilds.
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Old 07-19-2013, 09:58 PM
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Doing 1-4
Azure guard
Europa(?)
AG does island 5, and soon will be going further i'm sure
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Old 07-20-2013, 10:43 AM
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From what I understand the guilds doing full clears are:

BDA
Divinity
FE
Rapture
Taken
TMO

Capable of full clear:
IB?

Doing 1-5
A-team
Full circle

Doing 1-4
Azure guard
Europa(?)

So that means there are currently 6 guilds doing full clears, IB wants to be the 7th.

That is 1 guild per day every day of the week.

If between Full circle, a-team, azure guard, europa forced were joined to do full clears they could also fairly reasonable fit in on sat/sunday and everyone is included assuming those 4 guilds turn into 2 raid forces.
Or we can do a rotation as divinity suggested.

Either way, when the next guild (like prenerf twinkies?) comes along, then what?

I don't speak for everyone but I would be far more inclined to let the next raid guild startup tag along on a raid before I would want to start missing more weeks to accommodate people going up and dicking around on isles 1,2,3.

Anyway, whatever people decide on, I think the rotation is quickly going down the road of completely blowing up either way. The server is at critical mass for raid guilds.
FC is moving on to bees and beyond the next clear we get that is not interrupted. More than capable Lord is easy-mode now. Also the proposed solution that would rotate one of the guilds is fine with FC.

I don't mind giving up a clear every 10 weeks to keep this thing stable (and loraen is right make it 6 days for rotating guild so they dont have to re-key on their non-raid days). FC is also willing to provide an early clear on Tuesdays to guilds that need--However, since we raid on a EST timezone schedule a start time at 10AM or 11AM(est) would be necessary to ensure we can start early enough for a weekday! (7-8pm est)
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Old 07-20-2013, 10:55 AM
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I personally think this is getting a little absurd - what happens when another guild or two wants in? The whole thing is going to crumble.
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Old 07-20-2013, 08:02 PM
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FC is moving on to bees and beyond the next clear we get that is not interrupted. More than capable Lord is easy-mode now. Also the proposed solution that would rotate one of the guilds is fine with FC.

I don't mind giving up a clear every 10 weeks to keep this thing stable (and loraen is right make it 6 days for rotating guild so they dont have to re-key on their non-raid days). FC is also willing to provide an early clear on Tuesdays to guilds that need--However, since we raid on a EST timezone schedule a start time at 10AM or 11AM(est) would be necessary to ensure we can start early enough for a weekday! (7-8pm est)
Yeah the only reason we were farming Lords so long was to finish quests and wait on the patch.. We only started doing Sky again about 3 months ago. For a month and a half of that we were dealing with the Freeti cycle being on our day which limited the players that wanted to come to sky and deal with the headache of corpse dragging to 4 and then corpse summoning those without keys to 5. Also Some of the bosses were killed for Sirran on those days or for drops by the guild killing the cycle. So it slowed down some quests being completed and progression.

So we basically just setup to farming Lords till the next patch happened and we could get 30+ back up in sky again with no huge interruptions in the progression. The first raid after the patch however we had another hiccup that is documented in this thread as well. As Ramblin has said we don't mind working with any guild that needs a slot. We have always been happy to help people and find solutions that help everyone.
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Old 07-19-2013, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Dentalplan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Here's a solution that I think could work well for everyone:

Each week one guild takes a week off from raiding sky and gives IB their spot. IB raids during this rotating slot in the schedule and also takes a week off every 10 weeks to keep things equitable. This accomplishes the same thing as an 8 day cycle and doesn't screw up the 7 day setup that works well for keeping corpse banks for keys.

IB should also get the next permanent raiding slot that opens up due to guild merger, lack of interest in sky, etc.

So it would look like this:

Week 1: Sky schedule as normal, IB does not raid sky
Week 2: Rapture's week off. IB Monday
Week 3: FC's week off. IB Tuesday
Week 4: Divinity's week off. IB Wednesday PM
Week 5: Taken's week off. IB Thursday
Week 6: BDA's week off. IB Friday
Week 7: FE's week off. IB Saturday AM
Week 8: AG's week off. IB Saturday PM
Week 9: TMO's week off. IB Sunday AM
Week 10: A-Team's week off. IB Sunday PM
This is a rotation and seems fair to everyone in involved
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